This is just... Wow. You really are such a hypocrite and I know for sure you don't realise that for a second. Some people have had clenbuterol in their food before due to contamination from poorly sourced meats. They also tend to get a nasty case of food poisoning from it and have a load of side effects often because the meats contain a lot more than trace amounts. This kind of meat is the kind you'd find being sold illegally at some market without any health and safety standards. Some nice restaurant that a guy like Canelo would go to will absolutely not be the kind of establishment that'd have this illegal product on them as they'd likely adhere by health and safety standards to a degree, as well as not wanting to engage in a black market that likely saves them no money. Your story just seems so improbable and incredible that it can't be true. The fact you make no excuses for Fury who had a very similar line of reasoning but also someone willing to testify on his behalf (which is way more actual evidence than some vague unsubstantiated claims about a nice restaurant having dodgy meat) is ridiculous. Stop simping for a dude so hard man, it's really... let's just say fruity.
Shadow: "Nobody knew about the clenbuterol problem!" Also Shadow: "Everybody knew about the clenbuterol problem and here is the proof!"
Not even that but; Shadow: "Canelo definitely had contaminated meat" Also Shadow: "Fury definitely lied about contaminated meat" He's a walking, living, breathing ****ing meme of a human being.
LOL Terrible attempt to twist my words, par for the course for you. Lets review - YOU were the one who claimed that "Everybody" knew. I showed that everybody didn't know by Nevada's rules that required a suspension for any positive test whatsoever regardless of circumstances. Anotherwords, they did not even consider meat contamination for Mexican athletes, unlike other states like Califonia who did and didn't suspend like Nevada did due to the meat contamination problem. This despite WADA expressly informing and warning the world of the problem for years. So due to WADA's warnings, Nevada should have been aware of that information, so they should have known about it and should have adjusted their rules by then. Further, Eddie Hearn's statements show that he didn't know either, as he, similar to the NSAC, acted like he had no idea whatsoever that meat contamination was a problem in Mexico or related to this case. Now, since you've been corrected, you now have no choice but to change what I said. I never said "EVERYBODY" knew, that's precisely what you said. I said plenty of people didn't know, like Eddie Hearn, the NSAC, etc when they should have. Obviously it was known to the world, but the people responding to Canelo's test and criticizing him at the time, obviously didn't know. So "nobody" in the boxing world, that was virtue signaling Canelo, or the NSAC who were issuing the suspension, knew.
You can come at me all you want, but I'm not going to back down from this, because it's an important issue that continutes to be a problem around here. I clearly have the facts on my side here and you don't. Fury is alleged to have lied about it, and created a false alibi. I'm not making this up. See this article : https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...oping-investigation-farmers-meat-claim-boxing The UK Anti-Doping Agency is poised to launch an investigation into allegations that a member of Tyson Fury’s team offered a farmer £25,000 to provide a false alibi after the heavyweight champion failed a drugs test in 2015. So you're mocking me for making this claim, I'm not making that claim, I'm sharing a news article that alleges this. I don't know the results of their investigation, but UKADA were clearly about to investigate this about a year ago. It's obvious why Canelo's claim of meat contamination has merit while Fury's doesn't. First, there is no such widely known meat contamination problem in the UK recognized by WADA like there is in Mexico. This point alone should be case closed. But further, the wild boar story doesn't sound believable whatsoever, and you'd have to be extremely gullible to buy this excuse from Tyson Fury. And unlike Canelo, Fury has a history of mental problems and going through public meltdowns. Fury is much more known to play mental games and tell wild stories than Canelo is. In the build-up to Wlad, Fury played mind games with Wlad that made it very hard for Wlad to prepare for him. So for you to buy Fury's wild story of eating wild boar testicles, ignoring the claim that his team paid off a farmer to create a false alibi, and to ignore the fact that there is no meat contamination problem in the UK like there is in Mexico, and try to equate the two situations, is completely insane. Canelo has a clear, well documented case of meat contamination. Fury's tellng you he ate some wild boar testicles and that's how he tested for nandrolone. It is bat**** crazy to believe a story like that.
Some nice restaurant that a guy like Canelo would go to? You have no clue what you're talking about. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/b...ed-meat-dining-ex-president-Bill-Clinton.html Canelo Alvarez may have eaten the contaminated beef that he claims caused him to flunk two doping tests while enjoying a meal with former US President Bill Clinton, it has been claimed. Canelo ate at Sonora Grill in February alongside businessman Carlos Slim and Clinton, after they had all watched a baseball game in the Mexican's hometown of Guadalajara. Athletes have had historical problems with clenbuterol in Mexico, where farmers are known to use it to beef up their livestock. With speculation over Canelo's guilt dominating pre-fight chat in Vegas, WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman, revealed to Boxing News how the fighter could have come to fail the two tests in February. Canelo put forward eight restaurants that he regularly attended during a visit to Mexico. Sonora Grill was visited twice and the first time saw him eat steak alongside Clinton. Sonora Grill is a chain restaurant in Mexico. GGG's quotes in this article really speak volumes about how we got to this point : "He's a liar and a cheat," says Golovkin. "I know what he's become. I have lost respect for him and his team because they have disrespected the sport, the public and myself." "I badly want to beat him. Although it's not personal for me. It's business. He ran in the first fight but if he comes to fight like a Mexican this time I will knock him out." What utter trash statements from GGG. He accused Canelo of being a liar and a cheat without any inkling that he knew of the meat contamination problem in Mexico. GGG's comments are outrageous and short-sighted and after these statements, he deserved what he got in the rematch, the beating of his life after claiming that Canelo ran in the first fight. GGG proclaimed that if Canelo comes to fight like a Mexican this time, he will knock him out. Turns out, GGG ended up being the liar. Canelo gave GGG what he asked for, he fought like a Mexican in the rematch, and GGG didn't do what he promised. He didn't knock Canelo out. He got beat up and pummeled, which he deserved after calling Canelo a liar and a cheat. What a dispicable person GGG was. He got what he deserved for dishonoring the sport and making false accusations about his rival.
I'm in my mid 30s now. I might start HGH or TRT to try and reverse some of the ageing and physical decline we all go through. If it's good sh*t, I'll 10000% be recommending it @IsaL should be proud of his hermano, Canelo, for being a pioneer in this field
I'll take that as a compliment. But this work is free of charge. Setting the record straight is important. We can't have people spreading lies about fighters and getting away with it. With all Canelo has given to the sport, he deserve better than having his name dragged through the mud by ignorant fans.
So you believe Fury consumed wild boar testicles? That sounds believable to you? How gullible are you? You believe Fury consumes wild boar testicles. You ignore reports that Fury's team paid off a farmer to give a false alibi, you ignore the UKADA's investigation into that, you ignore WADA's historical warnings to Mexican athletes about meat in Mexico and act like contaminated meat isn't a thing in Mexico. That's your stance on this?
You know an old guy called Bill Shakespeare described you to a T in the middle ages "Me thinks he Doth protest his innocence too much" ...Right on Bill!
When Canelo testing positive became a news story, it was clear that no one really had any idea about the meat contamination problem in Mexico. We know this because of how people in the boxing world responded to it. Very few people came to Canelo's defense and brought up the meat contamination problem in Mexico. Calling him a drug cheat, or saying his reputation would be damaged like Eddie Hearn did, is surely a result of not being aware of the meat contamination problem. Further, the NSAC clearly didn't know about it either, otherwise they would have treated it as meat contamination, and not suspended him like they did. So when I say nobody knew about it, I'm referring to the vast majority of people and fans in the boxing world, including most of this forum, who came out and called Canelo a drug cheat immediately, without considering or being aware of the meat contamination problem in Mexico. The body that suspended him, the NSAC, who's rules required an automatic suspension for any positive drug test, including trace amounts of clenbuterol, despite warnings from WADA which were already known at the time, obviously didn't take notice of the WADA's warnings about the problem, otherwise they wouldn't have suspended him and realized it was meat contamination. You're trying to highlight a contradiction in what I said, but it's semantics. I'm saying that, at the time, pretty much everybody who weighed in on it labeled Canelo a drug cheat right off the bat and they obviously did so without doing their research. If they would have done their research, they wouldn't have labeled him a drug cheat, they would have realised that there was a well known meat contaminaton problem in Mexico, and would have given Canelo the benefit of the doubt. ¿Comprende?
Really? "Sanchez says Reynoso was a former butcher in Mexico and should have been knowledgeable on the types of meats that were OK for Canelo to eat. “Canelo’s trainer, Chepo Reynoso used to be a butcher, he’s in the meat business, he should know which meats to avoid because of this problem in Mexico,” Sanchez said to RingTV.com." https://www.boxingnews24.com/2018/03/sanchez-canelos-trainers-should-know-which-meats-to-avoid/