Why is David Lemieux so overrated?

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  1. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Lemieux is not overrated, if he fights a normal fighter who is not special at boxing, movement, then he will knock you out! He should study with Golovkin to learn how to cut off the ring! His power is scary, if he lands a good punch on you it will knock you out! Golovkin is a much better boxer, his boxing skills are underrated, his power is great, the scary thing about Golovkin is that he knows how to cut off the ring!!! If Lemieux could do that he would be a champion again...................
     
  2. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    He is in his 30s and is set in his ways. He will forever be a B level opponent. Golovkin can't teach him nothing.
     
  3. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    A fighter can learn how to cut off the ring if he works hard enough................there are a few changes he needs, Saunders learned to fight much better since his last fight...................he improved a lot, hard to believe, but he sure did.........................
     
  4. N17

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    Maybe you missed the threads before the fight, apparently "British Glass" was being shattered Saturday night.

    Apparently BJS was holding the belt hostage, was a fat hypejob and some blatantly did say he was hugely overrated by mostly British fight fans.

    You've only got to read these boards to see how BJS was/is rated, he is dismissed as any kind of challenge to Golovkin, Canelo and Jacobs.

    I not saying he beats them all or beats any of them but he is certainly a genuine challenge for each of them.

    And I'm not saying beating Lemieux makes him number 1 or it was some sort of all time great win but it was a very impressive performance away from home on a GBP card against a GBP fighter.

    Not many predicted that sort of win, a few did, I personally wasn't one of them so I am not claiming any sort of "I told you all" but only a handful did say BJS was going to win with ease and he did, so therefore BJS was underrated by the majority.

    I also don't know what you said about Lemieux before this fight, I haven't looked and won't or how you rated him or who you picked but I find it a little bit off that after BJS absolutely humiliated him in his own backyard he is now and always has been overrated.
     
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  5. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Haha I know what you're saying, he has that look about him.

    Yeah I agree, he looks like he is aging terribly.
     
  6. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    I think most people had him rated pretty reasonably. Someone who really lacks mobility and not a particularly clever fighter, but someone who hits very very hard and does well if you try to trade with him. If you take his power shots away he can be pretty useless. But he's someone that will forever have a puncher's chance in theory.

    He's a contender, I would say. There are certain types of fighters he will destroy but guys who can move like Saunders will school him. Styles make fights, init
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    kinda like jeff lacy, another opportunist titlist.
     
  8. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's ridiculous. Lemieux lost to GGG and Saunders and everyone he lost to because he can't box for ****. Fights with GGG and Saunders will always go the way they did. Lemieux will still make for great fights with B level fighters and limited punchers like him keep the sport great, but too many of us fell for the hype that he can compete at the highest level, he simply can't. Punchers need to show more than power to be elite, like GGG.
     
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  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    hes a opportunst brief titlist
     
  10. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    You're reading troll threads. I tend to stay away from threads by certain known trolls because they make claims with no substance.

    I'm not sure why anyone serious would claim British glass for BJs. I'm not aware he has ever been badly hurt.

    As far as rating BJ, it was kind of hard to do when most of his opponents are domestic level, and it does get boring when you own a belt but are fighting over matched journey men. Most probably didn't know much about Saunders. I personally had only watched the Eubank fight. I can see why some would be skeptical of his level when you consider his opposition.

    I've always maintained that DL is vastly overrated. Read post #2, and 7 to see my opinion on DL well before the fight was announced.

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/cotto-will-make-easy-work-of-lemiuex.594661/#post-18795568

    Without knowing much about Saunders I knew he would outbox Lemieux is he had a decent skill set and boxing fundementals. Again, that's without knowing much about Saunders' ability.

    Post 5 on this page to see what I said about Saunders-Lemieux.. quote below.

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...d-beat-him-easily.595997/page-2#post-18837178

    "I don't know much about Saunders, but if he has a decent jab, good timing, and respectable defense he should be able to outbox Lemieux"

    I think BJ was underrated a little justifiably so since his resume wasn't that impressive and it did seem he was avoiding GGG, or at least the GGGoons made it seem that way, and it's also that DL was greatly overrated by several members here.
     
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  11. navigator

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    A good MW era would have more than a couple of unspectacular, lunch pail-carrying dudes who can stand up to this guy and put his lights out. Rubio is as fringe world class a caliber of opponent as you can imagine, and he took everything Lemieux had to give and destroyed him.

    Lemieux is a bully. He complains about a guy "running away", when his whole stylistic schtick is predicated on an opponent's fear and flight. Then he folds when he's stood up to. Saunders could have turned the screw and taken him out during the period when Lemieux was feeling sorry for himself and looking around for his big bro on Saturday night, but let him off the hook on account of Ingle's cautious instruction. HNN was getting to him late on. Heck, he didn't even have the nerve to fight to his strengths and sell out against Golovkin. He is the fakest tough guy in boxing. Awful fighter, anything but a throwback.
     
  12. yeyo monster

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    He lost to rubio and alcine! Please dont make more excuses
     
  13. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    David Lemiuex is an interesting case. He’s a solid B level fighter.

    He whipped N’Dam. Whipped Rosado, Stevens. Against the Best he falls short in a big way. Talk about levels!
     
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  14. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I didn't pick him to beat GGG. I didn't pick him to beat Saunders either. So I guess I don't overrate him. I guess Lemieux is a B+ boxer with A+ power. He'll look good until he gets in the ring against an A+ boxer---that is unless he lands a power punch then it's a different story.
     
  15. IsaL

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    He got in the ring with a past prime former Jr MW who was nothing more than a journeyman at that time and still got KTFO.

    He also got in the ring with another no name journey man and got outboxed.

    My take is that he will get beat by any fighter who can avoid his big winding telegraphic punches. DL is too predictable to be consistent and at the top of any division.

    With that said, he is an exciting fighter and should have many more exciting fights is matched properly like the Curtis Stevens fight.