Why is it every Sunday, whenever an american has won...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Arran, Jul 21, 2012.


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  1. StiffJab

    StiffJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    With untill Manny charr wins. P4P top 3 or 5 :deal
     
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  2. Sweet EP

    Sweet EP Jab & Move Baby! Full Member

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    Other than the Carl Froch line.... You are wrong
     
    Sweet EP, Jul 22, 2012
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  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its a fair point. You have to remember though, this P4P thing is a fictitional made up thing by the Ring magazine an American based magazine which focuses on American fighters understandably.
    You are right about what you say about Haye in 24 fights winning WBC WBA WBO Ring CW titles and the WBA HW title which is greater than anyone in the current P4P ratings did in 24 fights, yet doesnt get a mention.
    You have to remember they do alot of bias things to suit,
     
    bailey, Jul 22, 2012
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  4. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    david haye was unified cruiserweight champion ko'ing every other champion in the division before he moved up, how do you get more dominant than that? yet hes nowhere near the p4p list even then....so he then goes and wins a title at hw.....still not near the p4p list.......yet the american Broner wins one title at one weight......makes the p4p list?
     
    Arran, Jul 22, 2012
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  5. Midwest_Chopper

    Midwest_Chopper Shalom Full Member

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    Unified, never undisputed. Claim to fame is beating Mormeck and Maccaronelli.
    Meh.

    Danny Garcia is holds 2 belts and the Ring title he isnt P4P. Its about who you beat and Hayes wins arent up to snuff.
     
    Midwest_Chopper, Jul 22, 2012
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  6. Midwest_Chopper

    Midwest_Chopper Shalom Full Member

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    Broners not on the P4P list. And no credible posters have suggested he should be.

    Broner has also dominated. No fighters hes fought has gone past 6 rounds since ponce. Broner is P4P using you logic.
     
    Midwest_Chopper, Jul 22, 2012
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  7. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    danny garcia was getting his arse handed to him until he threw a lucky punch when he wasnt even looking, hes probably the worst lineal champion in the history of boxing.

    Lets be honest right now, if Haye was american you would be riding his dick...hell, people on here ride Areolas dick for doing nothing but turning up fat and crying.
     
    Arran, Jul 22, 2012
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  8. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    when broner ko's his next two world title oponents holding 3 belts, then moves up and wins a belt in that division...we can start talking about him being on Hayes level.
     
    Arran, Jul 22, 2012
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  9. Midwest_Chopper

    Midwest_Chopper Shalom Full Member

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    The USA has 19 world champs including 3 Ring champions. Anu "bias" is totally warranted.
     
    Midwest_Chopper, Jul 22, 2012
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  10. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    ring champions...an american organistaion gives these americans 'titles' shock!
     
    Arran, Jul 22, 2012
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  11. Midwest_Chopper

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    Lucky punch. Err no. He was setting that punch up in the exchanges from the get go. Any seasoned fight fan saw that punch coming.

    Haye had his chance to be a star but he ran and blamed his toe. Less talented fighters like Chambers, Arreola, Briggs ect went out on their shields. Haye came back and beat Chisora. Big deal lol
     
    Midwest_Chopper, Jul 22, 2012
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  12. Midwest_Chopper

    Midwest_Chopper Shalom Full Member

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    You can only be Ring champ by the number 1 man beating the 2 or in some cases 3.

    Ward beat Froch and Kessler. Dawson beat Bernard who beat Pascal. And garcia beat Khan.

    All warranted.
     
    Midwest_Chopper, Jul 22, 2012
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  13. Earl-hickey

    Earl-hickey Boxing Junkie banned

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    Yanks Hype Arreola

    They therefore have NO right, ZERO, to comment on David Haye
     
    Earl-hickey, Jul 22, 2012
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  14. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    Vitali couldnt beat chisora in the way Haye did.....Haye cleaned up an entire division ko'ing all his oponents along the way, and won a title in the division above...show me an american who achieved as much in 24 fights and ill stick an american flag avatar up, good luck.

    Chamerbers, Arreola and Briggs were good losers, is that what americans have become? good at losing? no wonder your empire is crumbling after half a century, shortest empire in history.

    the punch was a wide looping shot with his head down, it was lucky!
     
    Arran, Jul 22, 2012
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  15. Midwest_Chopper

    Midwest_Chopper Shalom Full Member

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    David Haye beat tge worst heavyweight champ of all-time. Come on now. :rofl

    Split decision too! :rofl
     
    Midwest_Chopper, Jul 22, 2012
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