Why is it that the mayweathers do all the dictating on what pac

Anyone can flip it to sound good but you forgot some key points about Mayweather's victories.

Ortiz: Maidana's leftover. Known quitter and besides Berto, an hypjob, he never had a career defining win.

Mosley: Came off a KO of Margarito.......16 months ago. He was inactive and never even had a tune-up. Went throught a botched training camp that affected him. Past prime also when Pac fought him but he was at least active.

JMM: Never fought above 135 at that time and only had 2 fights at 135 and was made to jump to 144, where his opponent came in at 146 anyway.

Hatton: Decent win over undefeated champ.

DLH: KO over Mayorga??? 1. That was a year ago prior meaning DLH was inactive. 2. It's freakin Mayorga. 3. Hadn't been in there with a decent boxer since Hopkins, a fight he lost. 4. Hadn't really had a good victory over a champion since Vargas.

See. Anyone can discredit either of these boxers.

 

what would you like me to look at? Because I see Koncz sitting right by manny saying they have not agreed to the test and Manny say nothing when he said it. I also see Alex Ariza saying they are not agreeing to the test on Manny's own youtube site

 

Not this old argument again

"Aim high, negotiate lower."

Floyd asked 154 as a pre-measure so that Team Pac wouldnt ask for a catchweight.

Floyd is comfortable with 8oz, but he probably wanted an extra measure against pac's power.

I don't know the details about the purse, but I believed that Floyd probably deserved the 55/45 but its still arguable

the 10m weight penalty was just because of what Floyd pulled in his last fight. He can make 147 easy and regularly weighs in at 146 ish.

Arum wanted to be butt buddies with Jerry Jones but Floyd didn't want the fight in TX.

All in all, I think Pac should have said ok to the 14 days in the first place if he knew he would budge later.. but its spoiled milk now

 

No ones FORCING pac to do a thing. Its called negotiation. If Pac wants the fight, then he needs to give in to demands. Floyd made concessions in the original negotiations, Pac- none.

For Pac and their team, skipping drug testing so far had been more important than making the fight. Thats their right.

 

Bob arum said that the same time Koncz pretty much denies it and it contradict Ariza you do know bob is a known liar right?

What does Oscar Hatton Shane Marquez have in common?
They all got thier ass beat by Floyd then Manny signed up to fight them thats left overs

When did Floyd duck Cotto? Cant wait for this answer

You do realize Manny fought the CHEATER after Shane beat the **** out of him right

 

Lets get this right.

Mayweather fought Hatton at WW a weight where Hatton was never comfortable and only had a controversial points win over the limited Collazo to his name at that weight.

You really are clutching at straws by saying Hatton had an impressive win over Castillo as in truth Castillo was shot to **** and only got in the ring with Hatton because he had a tax bill to pay.

Pacquiao fought Hatton at Hattons best weight with Hatton coming off two victories and nearly killed him right in front of Floyds Daddy.

Mayweather senior was spooked to **** and knew Pacquiao was a serios threat to his sons unbeaten record hence the vile smears with no substance about PED`s.

JMM gave Pacquiao fits at his best weight lightweight so why you are using his name when he had to jump two weight classes to fight Floyd shows what a pathetic ***** you are.

Now go and take your face for a ****!

 

From what I remember everyone was pretty amazed how quickly the fight was coming together. It appeared that even though PBF was the bigger draw (and less importantly #1 p4p) that he gave up all the points from the beginning . . . minus the drug testing. I remember everyone was excited because they thought that that final point was going to be a walk in the park and it did not make sense to not come to an agreement over such a minor thing . . . the rest is history!

 

stop there :yep

 

i would like to say good post with all the effort you put it but you are very biased when reviewing pac's resume,

against Oscar he was a huge underdog, people were saying things like the fight is a farce and shouldn't even happen,

to describe pac's last 4 opponents as "leftovers" is extremely disrespectful and you should really know better if you were a true boxing fan,

Floyds last great win was against Hatton and he took his soul in that fighter, all other fights after Hatton have been the underdogs and Floyd has been favorite,

his fight with JMM was a complete face fight night Floyd must have weighted 155-160 he look huge, not in comparison to JMM just generally huge,

Mosley has been shot for a very long time, the Marg fight was one last great performance which he pulled out of the bag and Marg and been caught red handed he had already mentally lost

Ortiz, Did you really think he had a chance, no way

overall I think Pac vs May, May wins to much skill Resume wise Pac smashes May simples

 

it's a fact that Manny only became #1 because of Floyds retirement. FACT you ****ing ******. If Floyd didn't retire or even took a tune up he'd still be #1, Pac got his #1 spot by Mayweathers brief retirement not by a loss.

The fact is Mayweather remains the bigger draw and still hasn't lost. Most still regard Mayweather as a more skilled fighter. It's like when Frazier took Ali's spot when Ali was forced out of the ring for 3 years, everyone still knew who the man was cause he hadn't lost his top spot due to losing a fight, even Frazier recognized this. When Joe Louis won the title he didn't consider himself champ and wanted no one to call him champ until he beat Schmelling.

 

Because they don't want the fight. They are nothing but obstacles.

 

Its not about who is Number 1 it matters who is the top draw. The top draw dictates in the negotiations (or tries to) . . . its all about the money. After the Ortiz fight PBF has more leverage than ever. As a fan of both guys I really do not want to see the fight.

 

Both sides had their little stipulations they wanted in the contract.

Only thing I notice was that Mayweather was quicker to agree with what they wanted and was more than happy to compromise and Pacquiao's side was a little less willing.

And that is what happens when you walk away when one side is still willing to deal. They tend to be a lot less willing to compromise the next time around.

Think about it.

In the beginning Foyd wanted it all the way up to the fight. Then he caved in to 7 days. Then he caved to 14 days. What did Pacquiao do? Left and went to fight Clottey. So in Floyd's eyes, that was like a big "**** YOU!" He tried to compromise and look where it got him. So of course he's pissed off now. He increased the cut off date twice. Pacquiao only did it once by going down to 24 days and only did that because his hand was forced because of the video from Hatton prefight got out. He wasn't even willing to meet in the middle. Half of 30 is 15.

So yeah, I wished this random testing talk would just disappeared but I can understand Floyd's position by not willing to cave.

Either way, now Pacquiao suppsedly is willing to do it, so now there are no more excuses from either side. If Floyd makes no attempt to try to negotiate after JMM just to see if Pacquiao is for real then yes, I will be the first to say FLOYD DUCKED MANNY.