Why is Mosley such a big underdog?

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Why did Pacquiao demand that Mayweather pay $10mill for every lb. overweight? That seems pretty excessive. Fighters make demands in many fights. That's nothing new. The question lies on how reasonable the demand is. All things considered, Mayweather's demand was reasonable. What if Mayweather didn't agree to Pacquiao's demand for them to use 8oz. gloves, and the fight fell apart over that? Would you blame Pac for making the demand? Of course not, it's a reasonable demand.
     
  2. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    because he has'nt fought for 15 months and is 39
     
  3. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac made that demand AFTER Mayweather made his ridiculous demand that didn't need to be made in the first place.
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    How come Vegas has Mayweather as such a big favorite? Are all those people betting on the fight a bunch of Mayweather fanatics?
     
  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Funny how Team Pac didn't begin complaining about the testing until afte Mayweather called their bluff and agreed to the excessive weight penalty.
     
  6. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cotto/Mosley

    All the things that Cotto did to shut Mosley down Cotto uses as a Plan B. Unfortunately for Mosley, Mayweather uses timing, footwork, and speed as Plan A. He (Mosley) couldn't knock Cotto out. He couldn't beat Cotto to the punch. He couldn't corner Cotto and make him fight. He was shut out.

    The only "*****" in the armor of FMJ is possibly a lack of punch output. If he was equal to Cotto in other areas this might be an issue, but I think he has more than enough to compensate for ANY shortfalls.

    IMHO, the writing is on the wall. This is boxing though. Mosley ain't no *******jack!
     
  7. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The long layoff for one is never good...couple that with Shane's advanced age in this sport it just seems as if the odds are clearly against the older fighter. On paper everything points to Floyd as the winner...he's in his prime, younger, faster and undefeated. Shane although a top P4P fighter clearly past his physical prime although I think his experience and tenure easily makes up for what he's lost in terms of a "half step" or so. Shane is clearly a more intelligent fighter with a lot of dangerous attributes that will keep Floyd defensive and on his "P's & Q's". I got Floyd by UD....but Shane is crafty and fast enough to potentially hurt Floyd and possibly get the KO. I just think it's more logical and likely that we go with the favorite in this one.
     
  8. boxer1025

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    because hes most likely going to get an ass whoopin! floyd UD
     
  9. Davies

    Davies Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because he doesnt stand a chance
     
  10. truushot

    truushot Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vegas?? The lines moves based on bets. The sharps have dropped there money on Mayweather. The public then joined in. The public bets the name (see Pavlik) the sharps mostly bet the winner.

    The truth, as you said, is that Mosley is old, inactivity for older boxers is meaningless. Mosley, non loaded gloves Margarito included, has lost to every A- or better fighter he's ever faced. Many claim he's a HOF, he really shouldn't be a shoe in. I think that most rational people believe that Mayweather is an A level fighter.

    So Mayweather, an A level fighter, fighting Mosley who's lost to all A- or better fighter and topping that off with the fact that Mosley will be PED free and is 39 makes this a clear cut fight.

    Mayweather should and will win this fight.

    The line is a bit inflated because the public is betting the 0, though in this case they are on the right side of the wager.
     
  11. Shane_Erich

    Shane_Erich Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably because Shane is 38 and Floyd is one fo teh best fighters in the game today.

    As far as what Arum has to say this last Friday he picked Floyd to win. His quote was something like 5 years ago Shane wins hands down, but because of his age Floyd should win a UD.
     
  12. LSomefun

    LSomefun Active Member Full Member

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    Olympic styled blood testings are ridiculous demands? Accept it ur boy is a doper.
     
  13. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    That's one reason, for sure.

    Mayorga always ran hot & cold. After he lost to Cory Spinks (in a fight me and many others thought Ricardo won), I think Mayorga lost interest. He would be a little more into it with the Trinidad fight, but that aside, he seemed indifferent about his career.

    He was motivated for his fight with Vargas and especially motivated for his fight with Mosley.

    Mosley always looked worse at 154. His frame was not well suited for that division, despite having mixed success.

    Mayorga also weighed 170 on fight night! He was huge!

    At the end of the day, Mosley still started figuring him out late. I had it even after 10 and Mosley winning the 11th and the 12th before the dramatic KO finish.
     
  14. 1HitterQuitter

    1HitterQuitter RUTHLESS BY LAW Full Member

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    Bigred, no matter how much you try to defend Mayweather, people will always hate and discredit him. Just let it go, there's nothing anyone can do about that. Pacquiao can kill his wife the next day and people will still love him.
     
  15. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Well, Mosley was winning most of the late rounds in that fight, and that one was closer than many people seem to remember with a lot of people feeling Mosley deserved the nod.

    That said, two quick points:

    1. Cotto (IMHO) had more power & was stronger, but beyond that--he was an offensive miinded fighter who gained Shane's respect through pressure.

    2. Jack Mosley was a terrible cornerman when things were not going Shane's way and this was never more apparent than this fight.

    I believe the addition of Nazim alone nullifies the Cotto argument. The fact that Floyd is not an offensive minded pressure fighter apt to earn Shane's respect through pressure further invalidates this, in my view.