Why is Pac dragging Bradley up to 147?

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  1. agila2004a

    agila2004a Well-Known Member Full Member

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    how many boxers today fight near their natural weight?
     
  2. GrizzyBeard

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    And *****s where saying how **** of a fight Cotto 2 was and that Cotto was shot to ****. They can sure change their tune.
     
  3. king khan

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    All this weightclass **** is smoke and mirrors. . . Bradley is the MUCH naturally larger man than Pacquiao. . . The fight being at 147 is advantageous to Bradley if anything. . . And, he's already shown he can perform well at 147. . . . When you're the main draw, you get to dictate terms like that. . . just how it is. . . in this case, the weight will have no effect on the fight.

    Same with Cotto @ 154. . . People confuse training hard, and dieting with having to "drain" yourself to make weight. . . To get down to 145 (only a pound under what he usually weighed in at), he just had to diet a little bit stricter. . Which really is best for him, because you're going to get the Cotto who trained the hardest, and ate the smartest. . He's going to be faster. . . Cotto at 154 OBVIOUSLY carries around excess body fat. . . He's 5'6'', with a frame the same size as Pac. . He doesn't belong at 154. . . But, I guess he might have a bit more punch resistance while sacrificing speed/agility.

    Stop making the weights in these situations a big deal. . . It's not. . . NOW, when Oscar fought pac, YES, THAT dude was clearly drained. . . But it was his own fault. . . Rios his past two fights? YES! VERY drained. . Cotto @ 145? NOT DRAINED, just a Cotto in the best shape of his life.
     
  4. Clarky Cat

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    Didn't Mayweather do almost the exact same thing with Hatton? If Pacquiao beats Bradley, will people give him the same credit as they give Mayweather for the Hatton win? If not, why not? I don't think Pacquiao holds a significant advantage over Bradley at 147, because Pacquiao will probably come in at about 144. Bradley needs to remember he doesn't have to come in at full 147.
     
  5. Clarky Cat

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    I think their main criticism was the fact that Pacquiao apparently wanted Cotto to come in at less than 154. Seems Cotto grew tired of Arum's bull****. Good for him.
     
  6. Bogotazo

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    :deal
     
  7. Badbot

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    Wow. Then why was Cotto completely drained and looked like a ghost at 140 ?
     
  8. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just because fighter A drains to 140 and fighter B fights at 147 yet routinely comes in at 144 with a full belly doesn't mean fighter A is the smaller guy nor would it benefit him more for the fight to take place at 140.

    Troll is troll.
     
  9. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Pac wants him to be overhydrated, the *******. :yikes It's so diabolical I didn't see it before!
     
  10. king khan

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    Doesn't look "drained" to me? Compare this to how Rios looked - THAT is drained.


    Here is the complete tale of the tape for Cotto/Pac. . . Note how Cotto's measurements are essentially the same, thereby evincing his frame is natural for a 140/147 pounder. . . I do think he outgrew 140 pounds, and I think actually 145-146 was his ideal weigh-in weight.
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    Now, here he is at 154. . . He just doesn't belong at 154 - he's too short, and carries excess body fat. . . Lol, Cotto just doesn't want to diet while training anymore. . But still, really not that much of a difference. . . Just some excess body fat.
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  11. Bogotazo

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    I doubt Cotto moved up to 154 for some extra snackage.
     
  12. king khan

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    You can't confuse "cutting weight" (what 99% of boxers do) with being "drained." Cotto used to rehydrate to 155 pounds when fighting at 147 - that's about average rehydration weight. . Hell, Lamont Peterson rehydrated to that fighting at 140. . LOL, RIOS rehydrates to that fighting at 135!

    I'm not saying sometimes a fighter really is effected by draining himself, and they need to move up. . . But for Cotto's case, it's just a marketability tool to make gullible fans believe that Cotto is somehow "rejuvenated", and "stronger" at 154, and he has a better chance than he would at 145, or 146 (what he weighed in normally anyway). . . Cotto never struggled with weight (like I said, he always came in at 146), and he was pretty much the prototype for a "perfectly sized" WW.
     
  13. king khan

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    That, coupled with the fact that he needed a new angle for marketability. . . Cherry pick an easy title, beat a shot to shyt Mayorga, and a slow, beaten to a pulp/one-eyed Margarito, and BOOM, gullible fans believe Cotto is now better tahn ever!
     
  14. Boxing Fanatic

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    that is just a stupid question. timmy has fought at 147 many times
     
  15. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well...."many" times would be exaggerating. Tim has had 95% of his fights at Jr WW.