Why Jones And Calzaghe Will Always Rate Higher Than Hopkins

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  1. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He still would of got beat by those guys though even with the talent he had.
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Very true but I don't think he would have been an easy fight for them and even in losing efforts would have proved he belonged at a level that he can only dream of now.
     
  3. Canibus81

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    I agree :good
     
  4. pugilist64

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    "In their primes" they would never lose to a white boy.
     
  5. pugilist64

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    If Jones and Hopkins beat Calzaghe they`re better. If both of them lose to Calzaghe they`re STILL better. What a big waste of time for them to fight him.
     
  6. Canibus81

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    You really believe Calzaghe would of beatin Hopkins or Jones around 97 to 01? Cause if you do, your blind than. And BTW, Toney would knock Calzaghe out too.
     
  7. TheGOAT

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    Calzaghe is just a UNCLE TOM defeater. Plain & Simple.
     
  8. SOBER' LOCS 559

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    ...Exactly ,and kessler is still not proven....how can you have 46 fights with only 2 known names on your record and consider him higher then hopkins,hopkins f fought bigger names then calzaghe in the last 2 years the calzaghe has in his WHOLE CAREER...and roy?? c'mon lets be real here roy hasnt been roy since tarver ko'd him and he gets worse everytime out so does his chin ...and **** i'll fight roy jones all you gotta do is whisper in his ear and he goes to sleep!!...plus i'm pretty sure calzaghe was "cokecained" out when he fought hopkins...calzaghe is far from being ATG.....i like how he stepped up the competition after his 40th fight lol....calzaghe Boooooooo go look at his record real funny...6 known names and manfredo,lacy,sheika,kessler are 4 of them and those aint close to elite...b-hop is the only guy he ever fought that was elite....40 FIGHTS AND THEN HE STARTS TO FIGHT KNOWN FIGHTERS AND THEN RETIRES 6 FIGHTS LATER....??? OK
     
  9. Danny

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    Apart from Pascal, I don't think Hopkins has been put down before? Please correct me if I'm wrong!

    Now, Calzaghe got put on his ass by two guys who were supposed to be shot when he faced them! Put it this way, both Hopkins & Jones were past it when Joe faced them. Sure, Joe got the decision over both, but the Hopkins win is debatable, no doubt!

    Hopkins has longevity over both guys. He is still competing at elite level & he took Pascal to school even though he was not awarded the decision!
     
  10. moreorless

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    Could we stop saying "Hopkins in his 40's" as if its some kind of negative, Hopkins greatest sucess has been in his 40's.
     
  11. swayz

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    neither fought the level of bums rjj did when he was at 175. imo there is no title defence of b-hop's or zaggy's that comes near to being as shameful as hand-picked part time bum richard frazier.

    & b-hop & joe were relatively unknown too. before calzaghe fought lacy & b-hop fought tito they had a hard time getting "superfights" due to their lack of recognition with the wider public. rjj was one of the most famous fighters on the planet & literally everyone wanted to fight him but he actively chose to fight bums on hbo...bums personally hand picked by rjj himself. :bbb


    you are wrong. :thumbsup
     
  12. swayz

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    :deal
     
  13. TheGOAT

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    In the words of RJJ hisself... "Bernard just wants to whip white guys. That's why he dont perform well against black men. Place any white man in front of Bernard and he will easily whip them. It's not a question of who will whip who...it's a question of black vs. white." RJJ
     
  14. The_President

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    So true! Win or lose both Hopkins and Jones will always be considered greater than a Joe Calzaghe simply because the boy lacks balls and wasted his true talent fighting the 'safe' bums Frank Warren used to mastermind Joe's illusioned career. Joe quit for good reason since it was always Frank Warren who choose the timing of Joe's bouts and opponents, usually bums, second tier talent, or later, well past prime elites who he ducked in their primes. At this stage, had Calzaghe not run off to the comforts of the pipe, he would have several loses on his carefully crafted Frank Warren built record. Number 1 Hype Job In The World; King Of The Bums, Joe "Puff-Puff-Reload" Calzaghe. :yep
     
  15. zarman

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    hopkins without a doupt
    jones
    toney slightly behind roy
    calzaghe slightly behind toney