Why Mayweather beats Sergio Martinez

It was a bunch of Shanes arms flailing and Mayweather bludgeoning him with straight rights and left crosses.

 

That's an excellent point, he finally got to Martinez when he timed his own punches between Sergio's, excellent advice from Roach. I don't think Floyd prefers that method though, that's something a counter-puncher like Marquez thrives on. Floyd is great in the pocket defensively, but I don't see him initiating clinches. He reacts to inside pressure, he doesn't smother. But if Martinez chooses to find him there or the fall into a clinch, the question is who's craft will be superior? I see Floyd's ability to push with the shoulder and grab with his arms while hitting as being effective, but I feel Martinez would just throw with much more willingness and have more success at close range.

 

The footspeed argument is a major factor and Martinez defiantly has faster legs if they were to fight now. Floyd will not be hard to find. Combine that with Sergio's longer reach and an ability to land solid shots from outside without getting countered and it doesn't look to favourably for Floyd.

 

I can see your point, but I think Chavez would be too slow, and give too large a target. Not to mention, as good as Chavez is, he's several levels below Floyd in terms of skills. Floyd intelligence in the ring is about a million times more then what Chavez posesses. I see Floyd winning a snoozer vs. Chavez, with maybe a few moments that awaken the crown. Jr. would need to learn how to cut the ring effectively, and hope Floyd lays against the rope or in the corner. Anywhere near the middle, and it's all Floyd. And unless Martinez is completely drained at 154, I think he beats Floyd at either weight.

 

I think a lot who think Martinez is as fast as Floyd are a bit jaded, due to seeing Sergio fight the comp he's fought over these last 3 years. None of his opponents @ mw have been particularly fast. That's why I'm very interested to see him fight at 154 again, to gauge how he looks.

 

Martinez moves faster than Floyd , he could be in the ring by himself and it would be as clear as day.

 

Sergio would show zero respect for Floyd's power. I mean why would he? Sergio is a mw and Floyd is a ww. He would have about 15 lbs on Floyd. And Sergio has good power as a mw and Floyd has avg power for a ww. And the disparity in skill level isn't great enough for Floyd to compensate for the difference in size. What can Floyd do to keep Sergio off of him? His legs are nearing the end and he simply can't move like he used too.

 

This isn't a sprinting or bike riding contest. But you keep up with that opinion sir.

 

What a stupid post.

 

Almost everything you mentioned doesn't gel with Martinez's style. He's a mid to long range boxer/puncher who flurries and moves. The only place where Floyd would have to deal with the strength advantage from Martinez, is in the punches themselves. This "bullying" Sergio doesn't exist.

 

Good analysis. Tho I think Floyd is the more skillful fighter he met his match with someone that has the same athleticism and also a high ring IQ.

The punches that were meaningful by Barker, Macklin, and Chavez Jr were very, very few tho Chavez Jr's was a wallop that should of dropped most 160lbers. It dazed Sergio and took some more before finally falling. Floyd has power, but not that type. He wouldnt rush the ko he'd dissect Sergio, force Sergio to come forward.

Basically it comes down to who wins the battle of the jabs. Sergios busier, more consistent or Floyds more precise? His right hand lead would be a huge factor. It would similar to Marquez-Pacman but judges might give it to Sergio based on activity tho Floyds best performance might be a controversial decision loss to Sergio. Its the most competitive fight out there today. Floyd I think is a strong 154lber now and Sergio is a natural 154lber good enough to be the best 160lber as well. If the fight did happen at a catchweight below 154 say 150 on an older fighter like Sergio that takes its toll and Floyd might do to him what Ward did to Dawson or another one sided UD win for Floyd.

 

Your whole argument is predicated on your opinion that Martinez is faster from point A to B, than Floyd. You have nothing to substantiate this claim, other than your opinion. If Martinez is faster than Floyd, he shouldn't have been getting hit by the jab of Barker repeatedly.

Do you have anything else to add?

 

You didn't read my previous posts. You just listen to yourself.

 

I don't think Floyd would stop Sergio.

It'll go to Floyd if it's a close fight imo. Floyd has consistently been the draw between them plus people tend to sympathize with the little kid who is fighting a big kid