I've found there to be a lot of self-loathing/guilt among white youths evidenced mainly by self-(racially)depricating comments.
Indeed. Im proud Im half sicilian and half some type of European (never would I call myself white though). What I really am though is American. Just like every other American whether they are yellow, brown, black, red, white, or green. I feel if I said Im white I would be fronting, even though my eyes are blue and my skin is a tannish white. My point is people here in So Cal tend to front they are Mexican or White or Black or Fillipino or whatever. Until that **** stops its hard to call them a fellow American. Im blazed. Im out. Peace.
Thats the stigma about Italians. You could take Al Pacino and have him walk around northern Europe and people would say he's a dark southern italian, not white. But if you had him walk around asia or africa he would be considered a white man.
So who's the most hated boxers? I guarantee the majority would be americans. But I guess I can't share my personal opinion because I live in a little world? And I'm confused? Edit - After reading this thread I'm supposed to believe that unless a fighter is black and american, white americans won't acknowledge him? Bull. This is the same america that created white hope after white hope and will unashamedly cheer a foreign boxer over an american boxer. Yeah, it was different back in the days. Back in the days, no way in hell was some foreign boxer being cheered over an american boxer. Now some "fans" wanna claim some boxers are disliked because of being foreign when the most criticized fighters ARE american. I can't believe someone tried to say I'm confused when I say the most disliked fighters are from america.
The hatred for Hatton is became of the same reason they hate, Vladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko, Nicolai Valouev, Chagaev, Ibragimov, both Sultan and Timor, Maskaev, Dimitrenko, Povetkin, Malignaggi, De La Hoya, Calzaghe, etc.
I'd have to agree that Hatton did get a lot of negative things said about him after the Castillo victory. Some of it is biased in my opinion. Fact is Castillo was shot or at the very least in serious decline.It was obvious after the first round he wasn't as sharp as he had been when fighting Mayweather and Corrales. So you can't give Hatton the same kudos as if he had beaten Castillo at his best. But people seem to forget how much this fight was in demand earlier this year. Everybody was calling Hatton a fraud if he wouldn't fight Castillo. He did what the fans wanted him to do and fought Castillo, unfortunately it wasn't the version of Castillo we wanted. Hattons win was a good victory and does cement his dominance at 140lbs but realistically it wasn't a great win but only a good win with a very good name added to his record. He shouldn't be garnishing with all the respect he would get by beating prime Castillo but he shouldn't be vilified for simply making a good fight that we boxng fans have been demanding for sometime. It seems to me that Hatton does have a lot of haters who no matter how he performs or who he beats will always look towards the negative.
Great win, but also it was the "way" he won! Mayweather could not do that, in the first fight Castillo beat the crap out of Mayweather.
I thought your arguement was about race, not about nationality. Now your argueing americans are the most hated. Are you confused? Yeah that definitely isnt completely true, but look at those Boxing4real videos on Youtube and try telling me they arent. There might be a little bit. Im fairly young so I cant speak for what it is like back in the day. When is the "back in the day" you are talking about. 40's 50's 60's 70's. That is back in the day. And the most disliked fighter is whoever is the most loud mouthed, rude, disrespectful, or boring. Taylor, Spinks, Briggs. If these guys were exciting in there most recent boughts they wouldnt have gotten any hate. Well, Spinks is never exciting.
Oh laylace you might be a little right about the american thing. Americans arent very popular right now in the world.
Nope. Race had nothing to do with what I said. One poster stated that fans hate Hatton because he's white and from the UK. I wasn't even thinking about race, only nationality to prove that isn't true. If I wrote a list of disliked boxers 7/10 would be american. I didn't name a white american boxer because I can't think of a hated white american boxer. No, I agree. Those dudes will obviously pick against the white boxer even though they are white themselves. But when I come to message boards and see which boxers recieve the most criticism, I have to be honest and say it's usually the american ones. Hatton and Calzaghe are notable exceptions. Specifically I'm thinking about Louis vs. Schmelling. Again, I agree. But that's a far more logical conclusion to reach then being hated purely because of race and nationality like the one poster brought up. That's what I'm trying to say. America no longer has a sense of nationalistic pride TO hate other boxers from a different nationality. When fans on message boards bring that up I laugh because it's the american boxers being criticized a hell of alot more.
Based on most of these comments I would say that most people aren't fully aware of why they hate hatton, they just do. The fact is that people hate hatton for the same reason they hate all fighters.........because of the "sorry I just don't buy the hype" factor. Trust me every fighter in this world that gets hated on gets hated on because a group of people just say "u know what buddy I'm just not buying it" In my opinion there are a number of factors regarding hatton that make people feel this way (and I say "feel" because getting ripped off is an emotion): 1) He's been over managed most of his career. 2) He's a bloody politician. He's always talking about how he's an all action fighter and how he's got such big hart and all. Whether this is the case or not there's never been any evidence to prove this concretely. The reality is that more then anything he's an intelligent incredibly determined fighter. And people get annoyed when a guy bills himself as gatti and doesn't deliver. 3) He's got a legion of fans that by his propaganda hook line and sinker. Which annoys the hell out of some people. Don't believe that all fighters are hated on for the same reasons? Just replace Hatton with Floyd Mayweather in everyone of these reasons and watch what happens.....the general premiss works for all.
****! Its just too dam bad I always come up with gold when nobody's on here. peace out yall I'm going to bed.
i've noticed on these boards that quite a lot of the americans give hatton due respect.a lot of the dissing comes from our side of the pond.