Why was Roy's fall from grace so sudden?

Its called AGE and no one can beat it...

Jones did fought with his good given talent and never really used classical boxing skills. Once his talents started to go away he didnt have the skills to fall back on..Many dont know but it was one of the two major reasons that Jones split from his father as his trainer. Sr wanted Jones to be more of a boxer using his jab and throwing more classic combos, that isnt what Jones wanted to do...Truth is Jones was on the way down as far back as his fight with Harmon when after the fight Jones stated that it was hard for him to get off he was 32 at that time..

Jones is shot now, and the Cazlaghe fans are making this win out as something great when it really isnt, Jones' recent fights prove that he was shot, even though he was winning he didnt look good doing it..His Haters are saying this only proves that he was never anygood...Time will quite both those unreasonable stances.

 

I'm 28 yrs old... and when i first got in to boxing, tyson was just starting to really kick a$$, i remember a young DLH but the first fight i remember watching live (AND I BELIEVE IT WAS ON FREE TV STATION, LIKE ABC SATURDAY) was RJJ and Toney.... i remember watching the buildup and it was suppose to be a toss-up, i think, with RJJ being faster and toney being the power puncher..

and they were both amazing to me when i watched them, but it was clear that RJJ was the better boxer... i dont know how to explain it, probably because i was young, but RJJ was just BETTER than a PRIME and i mean PRIME Toney, which i dont think hardly any posters on here realize who i prime toney was...

then after dominating opponents, for years he had a tough match with tarver and won... but in their rematch i think it was pure luck that he just got hit flush and got knocked out... it happens all the time...

and then it did turn ALL mental, like my fav boxer w. klitschko, they can/could beat anyone man in front of them, but the warrior/fearless nature in every great boxer was ripped from both of them... but with wlad it happened at an earlier age and i think he has adjusted, but RJJ was already on the tail end of his prime and i think, and i know its a lame excuse, BUT IT WAS PURE LUCK... i think RJJ could have fought him on a different night and he would have beat tarver and not beeen knocked out in the first place... but boxing isnt like fut/football, you lose once your legacy is changed, boxing fans and historians dont believe in off-night for boxers

 

Jumping off a cliff can't though, you should give it a shot.

 

here we go again with a ignorant statement. joe is only 3 yrs younger.:rofl
and he still kicked his ass. Now, I know it must hurt that your idol, dispite your insistance that he had a chance, was pummeled in a megafight. :yikes

 

His Glass Jaw was shattered by Tarver and so was his confidence.

 

how do you know he wasn't taking steroids at many points through his career though, not trying to sound silly but him, holy and shane are two of the most ripped muscled fighters about, shane and roy unreal speed and all have had pretty solid links with steroids. I would say jones has the least clear link but still it makes me wonder.

 

Guys like Jones and Mosley were faster prior to being linked to any steroid use later in their career, so I don't think it made much of a difference. Steroids don't give fighters the abilities and skills Roy had.

 

roids will always follow his acheivements, just as it will with sugar (code for roids LMAO) Shane, and I like Shane.

 

Well if you are the type of person who can take drugs one time. You are the kind of person who can take them more than once. You are the type of person who are willing to cross that barrier.

If someone has taken such things, even if it has only been proven one time, you have reason to speculate that it has been a big factor in his career.

 

no they don't give them the skills and ability but is it not possible that they could have taken steroids for years without the link being there. Look at guys in the nfl and baseball etc many of those guys have taken roids since they were in high school but have never been prooved to be steroid users.

 

Roy was never that good at the basics and was never forced to use them against other fighters because he had them intimidated and out gunned in every physical attribute. When his physical attributes started to diminish, he didn't have the gameplan to get through it.

He's still good enough physically that he'd beat Erdei in my view, but when matched with a Hopkins or a Calzaghe who do all the things you need to do to be good at this age, he'll lose, every time.

 

I dont agree. Roys main skill was his speed (with power). (something that Calzaghe does not have - he only has speed, but with only modest power). Speed with power is something that steroids definetely enhance.

 

Hmm I wonder why the rumors of roid dont follow V Klit around..He like Jones and Mosely was also rumored to have used, but no one here talks about it I wonder why:roll: