Why wouldn't Lomachenko school Floyd?

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  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Loma might be too mature for young Floyd at lightweight , though Floyd might be too sharp and physically gifted at SFW.

    That being said, I actually haven't seen Lomachenko use his Ring IQ that much. He's incredibly skilled and well-rounded, but I don't think I've seen him solve a problem with an intelligent response. Against Salido, Campbell, Linares, he just kind of did more of the same, only tried harder. With fighters like Hopkins, Marquez, Floyd, I can recall numerous fights where they set something up or shut something down during the course of a fight. I don't recall Loma making those types of adjustments. But I could be wrong, and would be happy to see examples of Loma's strategic thinking.
     
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  2. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Still gave him problems every round
     
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  3. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Loma was edging rounds and Campbell was giving him problems throughout the fight.

    Let me ask you something. Who do you think was a better opponent, Luke Campbell or Diego Coralles?
     
  4. lufcrazy

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    Look into your boxing history.
     
  5. PistolPat

    PistolPat Active Member Full Member

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    Better question is what it takes to be on top at 135 during Floyd's time there vs Loma's. Floyd messed up big time by not sticking around because that division was stacked.

    Coralles, Castillo, Freitas, Casamayor and Barrios.
    Versus
    Campbell, Linares, Crolla, Commey and Lopez.
     
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  6. AdamT

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    Prime floyd and manny eat him

    I think jmm would also beat him
     
  7. FastSmith7

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    What do you mean? Loma's whole style is about reading his opponents and adjusting to their style in the first few rounds. He always fights more passively downloading data as he's figuring out when he can engage and when he shouldn't. Maybe his style looks the same in every fight but trust me he adjusts constantly, 40-50 feints a round, setting up traps, being a shorter fighter he needs to time his engagements well, which he does flawlessly because of his boxing IQ
     
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  8. African Cobra

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    I know my history thank you but you obviously don’t understand the premise as to who has reigned undefeated for several decades like the Money Man.
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    If you know your history, you know Floyd is not the original can't be defeated.
     
  10. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    So I guess your intending on not answering tbe question and deflecting with what if scenarios. Figured as much
     
  11. Bogotazo

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    Can you point to specific adjustment's he's made during fights?

    From what I can tell he moves and feints and side-steps in ways that make his opponents very hesitant, so he gradually opens up and starts layering his offense. It's smart, but it's not really based on anticipation or studying patterns of an opponent's offense. He imposes his own style, he doesn't necessarily adapt to an opponent's. Every fighter adjusts in real time to things they see, but what I'm saying is that I can't remember spotting dramatic specific adjustments to an opponent's best shots. I might have to rewatch fights to do that, but I'm also curious if anyone can point to them.
     
  12. African Cobra

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    Never said he was nor is that even my point. You need to read carefully so you don’t miss the point.
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    This
     
  14. scandcb

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    Who is "Diego Coralles"?

    I never said that Mayweather would lose to Lomachenko either. Just that you massively overestimated how much success Luke Campbell had against Lomachenko.
     
  15. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    You obviously don’t understand the context. I could explain further but no point.