Wilder - Development inhibited

RightCross · Oct 28, 2013

Wilder is wild, crazy, unbridled and he throws massive punches with everything behind them. It is fun to watch and he is dangerous to anyone.

Farmboxer · Oct 28, 2013

Vladimir Klitschko totally outclassed Wilder while sparring for the Wach fight, knocked Wilder down with just a jab!!!!!!!

Hughie Fury, who just turned 19, is 6 feet 8 inches tall, has short punches, was the Jr. Olympic Champion would outbox and knock out Wilder. Vitali or Vladimir would knock Wilder out, no problem.

Son of Gaul · Oct 29, 2013

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English fight fan watched Wilder on Saturday, and a few comments to make:

- Wilder has undoubted athletic ability. That is clear for everyone to see. He could still put on some muscle on his legs as his balance is akin to Khan's before he started working with Ariza.

- Wilder has big power. Leverage from long arms in conjunction with putting everything into each shot has resulted in the massive KO's. The problem with exerting massive energy into each punch is

a. He gets massively off balance, often falling into opponents and crossing his back leg over infront of his front leg. (A true pro such as GGG always retains a central centre of balance) This will have a negative effect when facing a higher level of competition who could capitalise on Wilder being off balance and land decent counters.

b. His punches are far too wide. A straight counter or short hook from a decent fighter could land before Wilders right (despite it being thrown with a tonne of speed)

Obviously there remains question marks over Wilder's chin and there are clearly some underlying issues there. However, with his physical fundamentals, i.e. reach and height, that can be negated to an extent.

The main problem for me is his trainer. Who is he? What advice was he giving Wilder in the corner. It was terrible. Only when he gets KO'd and suffers a loss do I think he will move to a 'big name'. Freddie Roach does not currently have a big heavyweight and could have time on his hands so that would be the logical move for me.

They are talking Stivirne which is a big step up even after 30 fights and 30KO's. I actually believe Wilder would have more chance of beating Stivine than Tony Thompson as Stivirne tends to carry his left hand very low so it would only take one overhand right for Wilder to cause trouble. Perhaps not as silly choice as expected. Taking on Wlad after that would just be ridiculous as there has to be a massive gulf in class technically.

On a side note -watching Anthony Joshua in only his second pro fight, he looked far more polished, technically sound and balanced than Wilder. Having watched Joshua in the amateurs, I was unsure he would succeed in the pro game but after 2 fights he already looks a bit special. What do the Americans think of Joshua?
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Wilder's trainer is Mark Breland. He was a tremendous amateur and was a fairly successful pro, though he didn't quite reach expectations. He and Wilder have a good repoire at this point so I don't think there will be any changes made any time soon.

elmaldito · Oct 29, 2013

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boxerlove · Oct 30, 2013

Farmboxer said: ↑

Vladimir Klitschko totally outclassed Wilder while sparring for the Wach fight, knocked Wilder down with just a jab!!!!!!!

Hughie Fury, who just turned 19, is 6 feet 8 inches tall, has short punches, was the Jr. Olympic Champion would outbox and knock out Wilder. Vitali or Vladimir would knock Wilder out, no problem.
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Wladimir never knocked down wilder

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