Wilder loses his **** while questioned about "cheating" claim

During this thread many have stated wilder has made deluded accusations that are unheard of. When in reality, some are so common even the guy he’s accusing has used some of em.

 

Read it again

It's the level of accusations leveled That's stupid not the possibility Fury is unsporting

 

I'd say the costume and the egg weight bollocks is probably what more refer to

 

I thought this conversation was over and I’d appreciate not going over the same stuff again.

I have 1 question, if you can answer honestly please;
Considering fury has received a ban for cheating in the past, and has the consultancy services from a large crime organisation who the FBI have arrests warrants out for, for crimes involving bribing sporting (boxing) officials and fixing fights;
Do you believe there is ANY possibility he could have cheated or gained any unlawful advantage in ANY of his fights since returning from his previous ban?

it’s a simple question, so would appreciate a yes or no answer…I have a follow up question after.

 

Costume excuse is not an accusation of fury cheating is it?

 

True the reporter simply mentioned Fury's name and wilder flips the **** out completely triggered by it. Fury is arguably the largest draw in the division it's the reporters job to talk about the boxing world at large and Wilder wants to pretend he doesn't exist. You can't pretend a guy that sells out Wembley doesn't exist it's not logical

 

No but I never said it was
I was referring to delusion

 

I'll tell you why I'm not going to answer
Because your refusing to allow any room for movement here and believe it's a cut and dry yes or no answer

I don't believe a one word answer is of any use when putting the situation in to context

I'm happy to not discuss it again really

I was just interested in what you were trying to get from Serge when I thought it was clear on his reasoning

 

I asked politely and I appreciate you being polite in your decline to answer.
I only asked if there is ANY possibility (even a 1% chance) fury could have cheated in any fight (even against wallin etc) so don’t understand the need to not answer.
The answer is obvious, and the follow up question I was going to ask is obvious.

I’m not calling fury guilty, but what im not doing is claiming he’s 100% innocent beyond any doubt.

People have been talking like it’s 100% impossible, without doubt, fury could cheat against wilder.

Not because they believe fury wouldn’t cheat,
Nor that the commission wouldn’t catch a cheat,
Its only because wilders behaviour is all over the place.

 

Unless Fury put eggweights in the costume and used gypsy magic to make it heavier.

 

I think this is probably the easiest post to highlight the disconnect from...

The accuser is acting daft and making wild accusations for which there is no evidence whatsoever.

The defendant has previous misdemeanors but there's no evidence of what he's been accused of...
Can we be 100% certain he hasn't wronged the accuser in some other way? No, but we don't really need to - what that boils down to is the unfalsifiable position that because the defendant is a known wrongun, he must've been up to something, but it's an accusation so vague that you can't possibly refute it.
We don't treat unfalsifiable accusations as true unless proven false for good reason.

The thing is... The question isn't whether the defendant is a saint, we know he's not, it's whether there's any reason to think he's guilty of what he's specifically been accused of - and the answer to that is "No", and we all agree on that.


The point about Fury being a known cheat is something we know, the idea he's cheated here is without evidence and there's no reason to think Wilder has a point because of this - which you yourself know and agree with...
The 100% certainty point is basically impossible to prove - the absence of evidence is pretty compelling, but it's not really anyone's job to prove it didn't happen, it's the accusers job to prove it did and his case has been laughable.

 

Good post and I think you understand my point. I don’t believe fury cheated as I have not seen evidence or reason to believe so. However, I am not 100% confident in this believe.
I don’t believe any rational sensible person can be, hence there being no need for the “delusional idiot” references to a complainant. None of us would bet our houses on fury being innocent of gaining any unfair advantages.

On a side note, kinehan has allegations against him of illegally influencing the sport of boxing and officials etc. which fights did these involve?
From a quick google search, fury used his services in 4 fights, seferi, wilder 1,2 & wallin.
I know he handled many fighters. But it’s all gone quiet for a long time.

 

I still enjoy Wilder as yo never know what to expect. Ole boy needs to join WWE or AEW—TILL THIS DAY!!!

 

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