Wilder-Ruiz is a comical mismatch

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  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Relative to Wilder, Ruiz is a slug. You're utterly clueless.
     
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    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "disciplined in the ring"

    Undisciplined outside it.

    "Beat Ortiz with ease"

    Public had it 1 point either way or a draw if you don't count the BS 2nd KD.

    "And one of the top punchers in the division"

    Arreola, Liakhovich, Zumbano Love and the rest disagree.
     
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  3. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Watch Wilder-Arreola (2016) then watch Ruiz-Arreola (2021). Wilder schooled Arreola with a jab, Ruiz had a lot of problems.
     
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  4. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd favor deontay but ruiz would be a live dog in there when he puts his combos together
     
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  5. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder's chin is granite compared to most of the fighters Ruiz couldn't stop.
     
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    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think you're actually that stupid.
     
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  7. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder has below average footwork. What name you going to go under on your next alt?
     
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  8. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    “Arreola, Liakhovich, Zumbano Love and the rest disagree”

    Arreola was always known for having a durable chin. Ruiz dropped Joshua multiple times, a guy who took Whytes best shot, and Wlads best shot and shook off no issues.

    “Public had it 1 point either way or a draw if you don't count the BS 2nd KD.“

    Ruiz controlled/dominated the whole fight. With legit knockdowns and had Ortiz in all sorts of problems. Besides, Ortiz fully accepts he lost that fight to the better man.

    Ruiz despite his shape and weight performs well in the ring for a guy weighing 275 plus at that height. He puts the rest of us “fit guys” to shame. And he outworked muscle man, poster boy physique Anthony Joshua.

    Ruiz is always focused and switched on when its fight time and ive only seen him mess up once, in the arreola fight. Outside of that he always brings it.

    Question is could he be better with more displine outside the ring.

    Plenty of effective fat boy fighters out there, and Ruiz is the most skilled out of all of them. All these Mark Hunt, butterbean, Roy Nelson looking dudes. Ruiz boxes well.
     
    Aydamn, Nov 8, 2022
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  9. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is no blueprint to beat Wilder unless you have similar attributes to Fury, whereas any heavyweight with height and reach who can box a bit will cause Ruiz problems, we've seen it time and time again. Wilder KO is most likely but I could also see him schooling Ruiz with a jab if he wants to, as he did Stiverne 1 and Arreola.
     
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  10. Redbeard7

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    Front foot Ruiz failing to KO so many ham-and-eggers but then stopping Joshua is what makes it so incredible. Ruiz caught Joshua on the temple and he never recovered, got dropped 4 times, stopped in 7, whereas 43 year old 2 KO defeats Ortiz did recover and went 12. Crazy. But Joshua had shown poor recovery against Wlad too, and to a lesser extent against Whyte.

    "ive only seen him mess up once"

    Joshua 2 was also a textbook example of messing up.

    "Ruiz controlled/dominated the whole fight"

    Considering Ruiz was the A-side he won the fight but he had plenty of problems. Ruiz was hesitant about trying to get Ortiz out of there and his output was very low. He also took some big bombs.

    Ruiz clearly has many good attributes but they don't match up well with Wilder.
     
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  11. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    anthony Joshua is 6 foot 6 and a half or 199CM

    weighs 245 shredded

    won olympic gold and clearly can box “a bit”.

    Ruiz smashed him.
     
    Aydamn, Nov 8, 2022
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  12. Redbeard7

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    Joshua exchanged with Ruiz, had he kept it long and boxed at range Joshua probably would have won. But Joshua has inferior stamina, mental toughness and (likely still) durability than Wilder, which also helped Ruiz.
     
    Redbeard7, Nov 8, 2022
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  13. joebojoejoeson

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    Lol who cares why you think Joshua lost. The point is Joshua lost. Also little 12 year old kid I never said Morrison was better than Wlad. I said by the time they were 28 they fought the same level of opposition. Wlad continued with his career and Morrison contracted HIV and was forced to retire. This is why little 12 year old kids shouldn't be on the forum.

    Second I bet you are the kind of 12 year old kid who runs around using the term super heavyweight when every a boxer is 6'5 or over even though there have been tons of 6'5 boxers since the 1970's. I bet you believe that Tyson Fury is 6'9 because he claims to be that height right?

    My point stands kid, there are weight class in boxing not height classes. So Andy Ruiz height has nothing to with him winning or losing to Wilder.
     
    joebojoejoeson, Nov 8, 2022
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  14. lufcrazy

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    But you are though, this is what I'm saying.

    If Wilder does win, this is the best victory of his career lol.
     
    lufcrazy, Nov 8, 2022
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  15. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Go back to defending transgenderism for children you cretin.
     
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