Wilder v AJ

Good post.
But in a sense I have to disagree, and say on last night's performance from Wilder, if he cracks one on AJs chin he may not have enough on it to take him out, but it sure would rock him, it would be the follow up that ends it.
Chisora has always had a decent enough chin and never gives up.
And Wilder, we can all say he is this and that, but as a fighter who even now at this stage in his career will go out on his shield, there is no quit in him, and for all his faults and previous BS excuses one has to respect him.
I believe he still beats AJ even at this stage, because as we all know when he gets cracked, he doesn't know how to get in the trench and dig deep he just gets beaten up and stopped.

I also thought the referee was a disgrace last night, allowing Chisoras corner to jump in, if Wilders corner did that he would have a DQ on his record, Chisora has a problem with his eye and stops fighting momentarily and looks at the ref, DW was right to keep hitting him yet gets warned for it, the ref totally forgetting his own instructions to protect yourself at all times.
But hey that's boxing.

 

This is absolutely last chance saloon for this fight - and I can't believe I'm saying that after all these years. I think Wilder should be congratulated on his win last night. I didn't think he would. But I still think he's not got much left in the tank. As for AJ, it's so hard to know where he is mentally, as much as any physical decline. I'd probably slightly lean towards AJ- but maybe that's what makes this one interesting again. They're both at a similar, declined level.

 

They are both shot, but Wilder still has remnants of his chin left, whilst Joshua's is completely shot to smithereens. Against Dubois, Joshua was in huge trouble everytime Dubois landed even a grazing shot. Even if Joshua still has the skill advantage against Wilder, most likely his chin would give out first.

 

The way I see it is that in his last two fight, he is trying to do some of the things OP is citing...but he isn't very good at them at all.

I pick AJ in an easy fight too.

 

Wilder has nothing left. Joshua isn't shot like people claim. Just because he got put over by Dubois? He'd always have got ran over by him.

 

I’d like to see Wilder win scrappy decisions against Kubrat Pulev and Ebenezer Tetteh before I’m convinced he’s back in business.

 

AJ wins by KO.

 

Needed vintage Wilder for stadium fight. This has back at the O2 written all over it

 

I doubt it gets made unless they think they can sell out a stadium, otherwise why would Joshua's team risk the returns from a Fury fight that's definitely going to be in a Wembley or Spurs?

 

Exactly how I see it, plus Wilder is willing and will go out on his shield to get the win.
For all his faults Wilder is prepared to get stuck in when hit, Joshua doesn't he gets tagged and goes elsewhere and gets stopped.

 

Joshua was taking clean shots off Usyk and never went down. He took a few punches against Helenius and didn't go down (nothing really meaningful). He took next to nothing against the feather duster man Franklin. He didn't take a punch against Wallin. He was being hit by hellacious punches from Dubois, however. He doesn't have a great chin but it's not a bad chin. The fact he kept getting up is to his credit.

Both are more determined than people give them credit for. Joshua did give up against Ruiz and that is a stain on his record. Wilder seems like he would never give up.

Wilder looks shot to me. Joshua looks pretty much the same as he always has done. Joshua would've always lost to Usyk and there is nothing to indicate he would have ever beaten Dubois. Both only have wins over fairly poor opposition. Joshua's best win is going life and feath with Klitschko (old, inactive, retiring, lost to Fury in the preceding bout).

I would favour Joshua because he's not shot and has the height, length, and variety of punches to put Wilder over. During their primes, I'd have favoured Wilder to knock Joshua out. I think the fear factor is now gone and Wilder's power has gone.