Wilder v fury

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Scissors, Jan 16, 2019.


  1. Nicksp1976

    Nicksp1976 Member Full Member

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    I think Dillian Whyte is worthy of a title shot. Not only has he beaten Parker and Chisora but he has never been scared to fight even when he is already mandatory and he could of sat it out.
    Miller on the other hand is over rated and never fought anyone in top 30 in the world.
     
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  2. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    Agreed.

    He’s been very inactive but Pulev arguably showed that he’s worthy of a IBF title shot. Thought he out-boxed Hughie for big parts of their fight whereas Parker really struggled with him.
    Kabayel is also more worthy than Miller imo.
     
  3. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Miller's resume is appalling. Eddie doing a fantastic job to even have him in the AJ conversation. He's kept him busy and mentioned his name among the top guys in every interview. But as far as being deserved of a shot, not a hope. Maybe a shot and the WBA regular belt.

    Miller has been signed for one reason and one reason only - make AJ look good in America if and when he decides to go over. It's great work from Eddie in fairness. AJ gets an easy win against a 'top ten' fighter in America and Miller gets a nice few bob.
     
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  4. BigDoofus

    BigDoofus Active Member Full Member

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    He got a credible draw with Joey Dawejko, who, although only 5ft 10in, is also very fat.
     
  5. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    It's a difficult one. On one hand, nobody can argue that Whyte doesn't deserve a shot. But a shot at who? Joshua has fought him, beat him easy and knocked him unconscious. Since then he's gone life and death with Parker who Joshua beat easy, and life and death with Chisora.

    Whyte v Wilder intrigues me more than seeing Whyte get destroyed again for the second time three years.
     
  6. channy

    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

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    Maybe that is why Whyte doesn't get the fight.

    More experienced since the first fight.

    Comes to fight.

    Loves a fight.

    Will drag you in to a fight.

    Goes life and death as you say in the fight, giving the fans a real fight.

    Re watch the Povetkin fight, and watch the fear on Dosh's face, he is very very cautious because WK instilled in him the fear and feeling of getting KOd, and he knows it will happen to him.

    He doesn't want Whyte because he knows that he will at some point be dragged in to it, and Whyte has a realistic chance of delivering a beating on him.
     
  7. TonyHayers

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    Or, Joshua is more experienced, has also rendered Whyte unconscious, and beats people easily who Whyte goes life and death with.
     
  8. snake-hips

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    What have the US ratings been like for Joshua's fights?
    If he fights Miller is it likely to be on Dazn?
     
  9. snake-hips

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    What have the US ratings been like for Joshua's fights?
    If he fights Miller is it likely to be on Dazn?
     
  10. Dragon Punch

    Dragon Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The idea of Wilder v Whyte sends a shiver down my spine tbh. Deontay would bang him out viciously- Dill is taylor made for him with his lack of defence and general vulnerability.
     
  11. Hattonmad

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    Rumours are that less than 20,000 are watching AJ fights live on DAZN. Canelo apparently done shocking numbers v Fielding too. Some on here will say that's not true and perhaps it's not entirely accurate. But clearly, boxing on DAZN is struggling for viewing numbers in this early stage.

    This is why it's hard to know what Eddie will do with AJ in the states. He'll need much bigger exposure than DAZN offer if he's to be a success over there. Is AJ allowed fight on Showtime for example? A non-PPV v Miller on Showtime for example would do good numbers.
     
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  12. Twentyman

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    They’ve only had one common opponent haven’t they, Joseph Parker? Whyte did go life and death with him, you’re right, however, I think it’s worth pointing out that at least the referee allowed them to do that in their fight. Whilst I thought AJ boxed superbly against Parker the referee was shocking and would not allow them to have any sort of fight on the inside. Chances are AJ would have landed one of those big uppercuts on him but we’ll unfortunately never know.

    I think both fighters have improved massively since their first fight which was domestic level. Whyte wasn’t long back from coming off a ban, he was out of shape and his shoulder was injured. I think AJ would likely beat him again but I think you have to judge it completely separately from that first fight.
     
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  13. channy

    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

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    You really do need to take your tongue away from a certain person's starfish...
     
  14. TonyHayers

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    If you think I'm the worst for that sort of thing on here I suggest you find the posts comparing Tyson Fury to Ali and Mayweather.
     
  15. TonyHayers

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    They do have only one common opponent, but I was generally referring to the idea that Wilder goes life and death with a guy (Chisora) who I think most would suggest Joshua would deal with with very little issue.

    I think people saying Whyte has improved are correct, but so has Joshua. Since that fight he's shown he can box to a decision, survive a major onslaught and retain his power, and beyond the Klitschko fight has never been in serious bother.

    Put it this way; I think Whyte deserves it more and is a better fighter than Miller. But, Miller is a different name and represents something new. I don't see Joshua having any difficulty with either of them to be honest.
     
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