Wilders mental state going into this rematch

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  1. BoxingFacts

    BoxingFacts Member Full Member

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    I believe Wilder will struggle mentally in this rematch because I think even he believes he lost the first fight and that must put fighters through mental torture, especially when you have people around you saying that "You Won" when Wilder knows the truth, he was there in that ring.

    Wilder will probably feel like he has to be aggressive and win more convincingly which will put pressure on him and he will start to panic late in the fight if Fury out boxes him... The pressure is on Wilder.. Fury won with the odds stacked against him just like the odds are now.
     
  2. caligula4

    caligula4 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury is favourite with all of the bookies I have checked odds with here in the UK (oddschecker online, largely).
     
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  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I think that Wilder is probably stronger mentally now than he was going into their first bout. And as mentioned above, Fury is the favorite, albeit a slight favorite.
     
  4. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    No! He means Fury's mental issues, drug addiction, obesity, arthritis, goute, migraines, PMS and alcoholism.
     
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  5. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Member Full Member

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    I think that Wilder's super confident going into the fight. Wilder fought a bad fight and still managed to land the right hand twice. He knows that he can really hurt him with it, and that he can get him.
    The pressure is all on Fury for the fight, avoiding a right hand for 36 minutes ain't no easy work
     
  6. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Wilder didn’t lose the first fight, it was a draw. Mentally Wilder is fine, the 8 punches a round Fury landed aren’t going to keep anybody up at night.
     
  7. Tabby73

    Tabby73 New Member Full Member

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    WILDER won ....I can help you escape the CULT if you want
     
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  8. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder looks like he has employed a mental coach for this fight. Which is good.
    He looks calmer, more focused and he's less excited and is playing it cool.

    But.

    Wilder is a mental midget deep down and no amount of coaching will help that.
    As soon as a good crisp right hand lands on that shakey chin, he will revert to old Wilder.
     
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  9. Beyonce Wilder

    Beyonce Wilder Active Member Full Member

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    no one goes into the ring with P4P Sauna King with an intact mental state
     
  10. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    How did you arrive at that conclusion?
     
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  11. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilders mental state is and will be fine, in fact the first fight done Wilder a huge favour in my opinion.

    What it did was confirm to Wilder is he can't box with Fury, he can't stand off and let Fury take liberties, showboat and he certainly can't let Fury settle early.

    Otto Wallin didn't let Fury settle and look what happened. It really will be that simple, Wallin threw punches, was direct and made Fury uncomfortable and Fury really struggled.

    Furys mental state would have suffered far more than Wilders, Fury was dropped twice, he knows how close he was to losing.

    Fury knows he has to be perfect for 36 minutes but knows Wilder has to be perfect for 1 second. The pressure on Fury will be enormous, especially early.


    I think Fury crumbles before halfway this time, I see Wilder coming out aggressive and more decisive, I'm not suggesting he is coming out arms swinging but he will step right up to Fury and pressure him.
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 The Mercurial Mephistophelean Malcontent Staff Member

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    Hate to break it to you but, Wilder found his range in the 12th, all he has to do is calmly pick up where he left off. Fury knows this, and will be mortified by it.

    Kind of like if you go back and watch Martinez vs Williams 1, the last three rounds is when he dialed in and started clocking Paul with that overhand left repeatedly, unfortunately at that point they were both so gassed he couldn't do real damage with it. But in the rematch he was gunning for Williams with it from the opening bell.
     
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  13. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To this day, i have yet to work out why a HW champion would fight a youtube troll.
    If that's not a midget mental mindstate. Don't know what is.
     
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  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Feels to me as if you're moving the goal posts, at least in terms of what you seemed to be implying.

    You seemed to be suggesting that he was a mental midget in terms of mental fortitude. Perhaps I'm reading into it incorrectly, but based on your comment and follow-through in terms of the upcoming rematch, I would argue the exact opposite based on their first encounter. Despite things not going his way, despite being outboxed, despite his frustration from finding Fury such an elusive target - there was no quit in Wilder. He kept trying, and while most of what he was doing either wasn't working or was ineffective, he still stayed the course, and ultimately he found a home for the big shot, not once, but twice. That, to me, is the exact opposite of a "mental midget" in terms of what you initially seemed to be suggesting.

    I'm not going to defend Wilder's decision for fighting an internet troll. I thought that was foolish, so I agree with you there. Not the smartest decision he's ever made. But not indicative of him being a mental midget either, at least not in the terms you posited where you (again) seemed to suggest he was a mental midget in terms of mental fortitude, not in terms of decision making.
     
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  15. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Have this feeling Wilder will end this early.!!!!
     


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