Wilder's resume

Still fighting the likes of Jason Gavern 32 fights into his career says it all.

 

Nah Luis Ortiz is better than Parker, not sure about the rest though

 

In what world is Ortiz better than Parker?

 

Ortiz only notable win is against Jennings. Jennings at time only had a high ranking due a very controversial point deduction near the end of the fight against Perez which without the judges would have ruled a draw. Whilst Perez got a gift of a draw against Takam at the time. It should have been Takam with the high ranking not Jennings.

Whilst Parker has wins over Ruiz, Chisora, Takam and Hughie.

 

So to sum up....Wilder has knocked out a string of tin cans with his crude overhand right, has a very weak resume & loses to the 1st decent fighter he faced (twice).
We definitely need some live HW boxing ! Next

 

Same.e as vitali

 

Hughie Fury has done nothing, Chisora is old and that fight was a gift decision anyway, Ruiz is a good win but you can't use that to support Joshua's resume because Ruiz hasn't beaten anybody but Joshua himself(LOL) and Takam's claim to fame is giving a prime Povetkin a close, competitive fight before getting stopped.

Wheras Jennings claim to fame giving Wlad issues and going the distance and we all know Klitschko destroyed Pulev and dominated Povetkin

 

Wilder's resume isn't as awful as people make it out to be but it's far from good. And no sane argument can be made that it beats Joshua's.

Not even sure why the argument is being made TBH. No one regards Wilder's resume as anything to write home about. His strengths always rely on how well he stacks up H2H against the top men in the division. Personally I think even that argument is starting to unravel as people begin to realise just how limited he is, and how the whole "I need to be perfect for one second, my opponent needs to be perfect for twelve rounds" schtick doesn't really hold up when you're the one being KOed.

Anyway, pretty obvious at this stage to anyone with a solid understanding of the division that Joshua is both better H2H and on resume. If there's one thing Wilder does better it's KO cans, since his reckless abandon allows him to go all out every time, while Joshua is more likely to play it safe when he doesn't need to take unnecessary risks. You can take that if you want, but I wouldn't say it's much to brag about, myself.

 

Hughie Fury best win is in Wach beat Ortiz's second best win of his career in Hammer. So when you say Hughie has done nothing that just goes to show what Ortiz has done in his career.

I thought Parker was the deserved winner against Chisora.

Parker beating a guy who went onto to be the unified champion and thebfirst and only person to beat AJ is much more impressive than Ortiz best win over Jennings.

Beating Takam is more impressive win than beating Jenning for the reasons I've stated in my previous post.

On that, I don't know how anyone logically can say Ortiz is better than Parker.

 

Hughie Fury beat a 40 year old fossil Wach(lol) Wach beat Christian Hammer over a decade before he lost to Hughie Fury. It doesn't prove much.

Parker got a gift decision like most people think but i guess thats subjective. Chisora is old anyway. And wasn't that impressive in his prime.

Again, Parker beating Ruiz is impressive for Parker, but you can't use that to support Joshua's resume because Ruiz has beaten nobody but Joshua himself. Joshua who beat Parker who beat Ruiz who beat Joshua who beat parker who beat Ruiz who beat Joshua..... it's a cycle and not a good argument if you're using it to make Joshua's resume look better

 

I think there's a bit of a disconnect when it comes to the HW scene in the USA. Because other weight classes are so strong there it creates the impression that domestic clashes are more meaningful than they are at HW. The US HW scene has essentially existed outside of the world scene for 20 years so Wilder has been the champion of that and has come unstuck when exposed to the real deal.

 

Parker has the far superior resume, and unlike Ortiz hasn't been knocked out despite facing better opposition.

 

Ruiz is a perfectly valid win as he beat AJ, who knocked out every single opponent he met before facing Parker. Parker also actually fought AJ, unlike Ortiz who quacked his way away from a career high paycheck.

 

Looks like you didn't read the bottom paragraph

This discussion is Joshua's wins vs Wilder's wins.

Parkers resume is obviously better than Ortiz's just because of the Ruiz win but when you're using Parker to elevate Aj's resume you take the Ruiz win away because besides completely humiliating Joshua himself, Ruiz has beaten nobody and has a journeyman resume. Take that away and Parker has lost to Aj, lost to Whyte, got a gift against an old Chisora and beat Takam. Oh sooo impressive. Prime Bryant Jennings is better than prime Takam based on resume