Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gómez

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Actually, it can largely be dismissed as trolling but I have seen Calzaghe given shouts as the #1 from the UK (and, much less problematically and more universally accepted, #1 at 168lbs) :think
     
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    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    I'd agree wholeheartedly on both Duran & Arguello. :good

    (that still puts Gómez on an extremely short list and in very good, flattering company)
     
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    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    ...and yeah, JCC probably qualifies for both Mexico & 140.


    Nipping in the bud Cervantes' stake, bitter pill for him.
     
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    Ah, stupid me. :patsch One more. Jofre, and with a bullet.
     
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    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    So, for dual honors we've:

    Robinson (US/MW)
    Gómez (PR/SBW)
    Duran (Panama/LW)
    Arguello (Nicaragua/SFW)
    Chavez (Mexico/LWW)
    Jofre (Brazil/BW)

    What a goddamn A list.

    Actually, looking at it, that also happens to be a perfectly acceptable curriculum syllabus if you were going to put together a university-level course on boxing technique using the sum film archives of a few greats' careers (studying one per semester).

    That group, collectively, did very little wrong in the ring. When prime, all neared perfection.
     
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    Yuh is there right on Chang's ass in both the 108lb and S. Korean hunt.
     
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    McCallum for Jamaica and 154lbs, perhaps...?
     
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    Jamaica, no doubt "jah man". 154lb, hard question - greater men fought there, but few lingered enough to say that was the main weight by which history judges them.

    He sure wouldn't drag the quality of Ring Technician Studies 101 down, that much is for sure. :yep

    He belongs right there in the peerage with Robinson, Gómez, Duran, Arguello, Chavez, and Jofre as being "textbook-teachable" goes.
     
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    Whatever the opposite of racism is.
     
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    :huh
     
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    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Does anybody object to McCallum?

    (154lbs, obviously, Jamaican is given)

    I kind of view him and Norris as the co-GOAT.

    Hearns is probably most people's #1 h2h pick but he just wasn't there for long.

    (nor was Mosley, who inexplicably rates 2nd at 154 all-time behind Hearns on Boxrec...horrifically ineffective weight for Mosley, easily his worst, both in his success rate on paper and his form)

    I think any reasonable list has Winky top 5, but I can't see him ahead of McCallum or Norris.
     
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    If you're excluding Hearns, then I think you almost have to say McCallum. He was head and shoulders above Norris, honestly.
     
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    Jimmy Wilde and Pascual Perez at Flyweight both have a claim.Or Harada if you favour H2H prowess heavily over longer reign etc.
     
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    :think
     
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    I'd agree but I think generally Fandom is split down the middle between them (and when Hearns is allowed in the conversation he usually trumps both)