Will Abraham be a danger at 168?

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  1. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    To improve, you have to step up. The quality of your opposition has to improve. That's not the case for Abraham so we still don't know how good he is, and you don't know either. You WISH.
     
  2. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Sauerland did have an option on Bute. I'm not sure if he still has. Bute has waited 2 months for Mads Larsen and he did not want to sign the contract because he wants to face Kessler instead. So, is the option still valid? Don't know. Abraham would have to officially change of weight category and get ranked in the top 15 of the IBF, which would not be hard. But he's still a MW. After Zuniga, Bute will have to defend against his mandatory, probably Andrade again. At the end of the year, Bute will want to make big fights.
     
  3. Landshark

    Landshark Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here we go again with aa and his competition, PavliK;'s last 3 fights have been against lokcet, aVERY OLD man he was supposed to easily beat, RUBIO and NOW Duddy! Come on man, at least TRY not to show your bias!
     
  4. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Don't go to resume' when comparing Pavlik and Abraham. Pavlik beat Zuniga back in '05, and Zuniga would beat nearly everyone on Arthur's record. You brought up Lockett, a mandatory. So less talk about Marquez, another mandatory. Marquez had a draw with Bronco McKart shortly before he fought Arthur. KP handed McKart his first ever KO loss in July 2006. Arthur has yet to face anyone who is anywhere near Jermain Taylor's level. Like I said, don't go to resme'. Head to head, you have a valid argument. Resume' to resume, your boy is WAY behind.
     
  5. Landshark

    Landshark Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So who in your right mind beats "my boy" on Pavliks resume, other then bhop?
     
  6. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Jermain Taylor, and I know you don't like hearing that, but go watch Pavlik/Taylor II again, and then tell me with a straight face that Arthur can operate at that level.
     
  7. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    I'm not even a Pavlik fan! He's not my type of boxer. I do know Sauerland and I know Sébastien Demers, and how Sauerland managed to put him at the 15th spot in order to fight in a championship fight. All Abraham'S career has been like that. Pavlik has fought Taylor twice, and Bernard Hopkins. He had to jump 2 categories to do that. Abraham was never close of one of these fights. Pavlik has also fought Abraham's biggest challenge. In Pavlik's resume, Miranda is not even number 4 on the list of his best opponents. He comes after Zuniga, even with Zertuche. And you're stupid enough to call me biased? Abraham has still to make the big fights. Whatever you say won't change it. He does not have an A level opponent on his resume. He may win against Pavlik though. I'm not saying he's not good. I'm only talking about his resume.
     
  8. Magges

    Magges Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do you really think his resume is so bad? Of course he has no outstanding names yet, but he got a good number of, at least descent wins... Eastman, Jontuah, Ikeke, Miranda, Gevor and last but not least Marquez... People tend to underrate the Marquez win IMO... The guy fought a war against Lorenzo and decided it in the last rounds, his face a mess and Arthy made him quit after 6 rounds...
     
  9. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    Yeah but we know that it takes the fraud years if not forever untill he fights top guys like them because he has a mandatory every month:patsch:patsch
     
  10. NALLEGE

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    This is not even a post that is worth answering. Pro Pav fans haven't learned their lesson yet, but you will lol...you will soon realize that when PAv gets in with a guy who can punch harder than him, what type of fighters he is. We know PAv can't box, so now we'll find out if he can slug.
     
  11. NALLEGE

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    You Pav fans say the same old stuff about AA. This will not help Pav against Abraham. Pav beat an overrated JT who never even went to his body, and he beat Miranda. Abraham has more defenses than PAv no matter what you say. You can sit here and belittle AA's comp, or belittle AA kill Suerland...do as you please lol...but you same guys did this with Pav-Hop and Pav got his ass whipped, and you did it with Shane, and he whipped Margarito's ass, so why in hell would I or AA fans care about what you say about AA's resume...!!!???:lol: Why? Cause you guys think it isn't all that lol...
     
  12. NALLEGE

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    You don't know a damn thing about this sport, nor how to view a fighter who has improved. You're not even in a position to even speak of such things lol. You are talking about a champ with a number of defenses against guys you think are subpar. You talk about Sauerland more than the fighter lol. Technique wise you talk about how small AA is lol. What does AA's size have to do with anything when he has a chin and defense. One poster picked on how AA fought Ikeke, and he took Ikeke out in like 5 rounds 3 years ago lol. That isn't true boxing talk lol. That's hating on a fighter lol. You have to come better than this garbage to convince even yourself of what you're saying lol...
     
  13. NALLEGE

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    PAv only fights one way. His style is inferior to AA's style. That is why they mention Pav beating Taylor and Miranda once lol, as if that gives them a right to think PAv is better lol. Pav's been down in fights, and he has never been by someone with AA's power. Keep convincing yourselves that PAv will beat AA lol. Arum won't let Pav fight AA, he'd rather have PAv fight "over the weight" fights for money rather than put him in against a complete fighter like AA lol...
     
  14. NALLEGE

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    Jermaine Taylor can't beat AA lol. AA is Winkly with two to three times the power. Tell you what lol, had PAv tried to leave his hands down against AA lol, Pav would be walking around with no head today.:lol:
     
  15. Landshark

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    If Taylor was the supposed best fighter on Pavliks resume, he would have finished what he started pavlik taylor 1. Pavlik Taylor 2, IN MY OPINION was a draw. Look at me with a straight face and tell me the taylor that fought Lacy beats aa? The ease he was getting hit against Lacy? Now imagine him getting hit bit arthurs bombs?

    the stupidest thing is calling me STUPID because I thought you post was a little biased? Okay dude, if you want to resort to that be my guest.