Will Floyd Mayweather become more well appreciated as time goes on?

Can't really hold the Judah fight against Mayweather, Bokaj.

Judah-Mayweather was set in stone even prior to Zab losing the lineal WW championship to Baldomir. Zab was still the IBF champion, a legitimate Top 5 guy at the weight, and was considered by most at the time to be a hyper-talented guy who could still give Floyd or anyone else tons of trouble if he had his head on straight. Floyd dealt with his talent, defeated him, and then defeated the guy who previously beat him to take the lineal championship (Baldomir).

Mayweather may have avoided Williams in 2007-2008, perhaps...Nut given that Paul didn't get around to facing Mitchell until after Floyd had dispensed with him and really had only appeared on the scene at that point following a victory over Walter Matthysse, I don't think anyone would have really credited Mayweather with a victory over PW had he faced him back in 2006. Judah and Baldomir were both ranked higher at that point.

 

The TS named him TBE, I think, but I don't think too many else would. Personally, I think a top 20, or even a top 10, is just too damned difficult to make, so I don't know if I'd have Floyd there or not. It's definitely him or Pac so far this millennia, though. I like Pac, but could see an argument for Floyd as well.

 

You might be right. Might only be hindsight, really, to wish for a fight between Floyd and Williams. Would have loved for the fight to happen, though.

 

Williams probably presented a greater stylistic challenge than Hatton, but by the time Williams was in a position to be considered a serious opponent, Mayweather vs Hatton (who was rated p4p and was the undefeated LWW champion) was already being discussed. At the time, no one complained about that match-up.

 

Same here. I think Floyd taking 2008 off instead of meeting Williams is the one glaring omission on his WW ledger.

 

Agreed, I waffle between the 2 also .. Pac was more active but suffered the same fate a lot of boxers do .. lost his focus big time .. Once he got into politics and became a senator, I knew boxing was going to be an after thought to him and more of a hobby than a lifestyle. Not to mention he was partying a lot, losing millions in gambling and bad business ventures, borrowing tons of dough from Arum, etc. .. Once boxing falls on your priority list, as he was p4p #1 for 3 straight years, so does your ranking, went to #7 after that, and Floyd had him sandwiched as the #1 the year prior and after.. The Pac Floyd fight that didn't happen in '09 '10, was the biggest fight for me since the Fab 4 ..

 

"Money"'s primary objective has been to impress the average fan on how much money he can make.
Of course, the money basically comes out of the fan's back pocket. It is kinda like going to the State Fair and
coming home and realizing your wallet is gone via some "pick pocket". You can't blame anyone but yourself, because you knew pick pockets were all over the Fairgrounds...just waiting for you to show up.

 

Thing is, though, if Floyd met him after the Margarito fight and beat him usual style, people would say now that Williams was drained dead since he moved up shortly afterwards.

And had he beaten Kostya coming back from injury (and I think Kostya style-wise was a good fit for Floyd, unlike Williams), people would have hated him for "feasting on Kostya's corpse".

Actually, there would be more merits to saying these things (which we know are wrong at least in Kostya's case) than to many of the other gripes people have with Floyd's opponents.

 

This is incredibly frekkin funny !!!!!

 

A damn shame the fight never happened when it should have. I think Pac should have agreed to the blood tests. Then it would be all on Floyd if the fight didn't happen.

But it is very rare that those kinds of fights happen at such a perfect moment as '09, '10 would have been.

FOTC was a great fight, but Ali wasn't the same after the lay-off. Hagler-Leonard should really have happened years earlier. Same with Whitaker-Chavez and Tyson-Holy, Holy-Lewis and Lewis-Tyson.

Pac-Marquez 1 and 2, Montreal, SRL-Hearns I and Holy-Bowe 1 and 2 are big fights over the last 40 years where you can't really complain in any realistic way about the timing.

 

Wasn't as big, but as far as 10 years back is concerned .. it didn't get any better than the R. Marquez - Vazquez wars .. And Rafael was better than his brother as far as I'm concerned .. well at least for the first 10 years he was

 

Elaborate for me please .. Seems to me to be TBE, resume is a big part of it ??? .. that's why most by a long shot do not have Marciano at 49-0 as TBE or even as their #1 Heavy of all time

 

Williams had even less of a window than Kostya. Williams beat Margarito in summer of 2007. Floyd fought Hatton in December for a lot of money. Williams then blew it by losing to Quintana in Feb. Williams then won the rematch in summer of 2008. After that, he fought at 154 and 160 exclusively and was finished by the time Floyd started fighting at 154 in 2012.

So basically Williams sabotaged the fight by being inconsistent and Quintana showed the blueprint for beating him anyway.

 

Is that what happened though? Williams didn't beat Quintana until June and never fought at 147 again. Williams' stock took a major beating after Quintana basically exposed him and he didn't rebuild at 147 to pressure Floyd to make the fight. Had he rolled through Quintana the first time, he would've had better leverage for a Floyd fight.