Will Fury beat Usyk?

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  1. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Local bookie TAB NZ.
     
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  2. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No idea what that means.
     
  3. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    I don't think so. Stylistically, it's pretty hard for for fighters much taller than their southpaw opponent who rely on the jab to get in good work besides that jab. The distance between the right hand and the southpaw feels enormous, and if you don't have an ace right, it's hard to deter lefties. Does Fury have a stiff enough jab to dissuade Usyk from taking away his range? I doubt it.

    And more than that, Fury himself actually isn't too good vs southpaws. Many years ago he picked up a gift (being generous to Fury) vs 6'3 southpaw McDermot and he struggled massively with southpaw Otto Wallin as well. Of course there's a lot more to it than Usyk being a southpaw, but it definitely plays a role, and Fury's very limited track record vs southpaws implies it can definitely be a deciding factor.

    Looking at som shared history, Usyk beat Joshua, who dominated Wallin and Ngannou and beat Parker. Parker, of course, dominated Wilder. Wilder probably wasn't at his best, but you tend to find these things add up when you consider them all.


    Most importantly I just think Usyk is a way better boxer. Better punch versatility, better footwork, more active, more creative angles, faster feet, I just think he's a lot better.

    If Fury wasn't so big, I don't think people would be taking this fight seriously at all. Usyk is a much better boxer and I personally believe that'll be more than enough to make up for the size difference.
     
  4. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Wrong thread.
     
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  5. HyperionAlpha

    HyperionAlpha Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No. Things have finally caught up with Tyson. He should have retired after the 3rd Wilder fight. downhill from here. Usyk will make this obvious.
     
  6. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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    Fury needs to set this upside down. Use head shots to set up body shots.
    A solid body shot will hurt Usyk. Usyk can't KO Fury.
    Advantage Fury but probably mid-fight.
     
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  7. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury has proven that he elevates his game in a big fight. Wlad and Wilder 2 proved that, he’s older but don’t count him out. I think Usyk will win but if Fury can raise his game one last time he could make it a good fight. If he shows up like he did in Wilder 3 or Ngannou he will be embarrassed
     
  8. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nobody knows. This one is too hard to pick.
    Of course in hindsight people will claim to have known if their guess was right, but if they're sure Usyk will win, then why not make a massive wager. Same with a Fury win.

    In reality neither has faced someone as good/unique as the other.
    The fact both are extremely determined and hard to stop and neither have exceptional power suggests it will be a real back and forth battle.
     
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  9. Murderers' Row

    Murderers' Row Boxing Addict Full Member

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  10. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    I think Fury should be the favorite to win, but not by much. He had a bad outing against Francis Ngannou (for whatever reasons), but I am not sure how much weight should be given to that. Those sorts of things happen sometimes. It may mean something, and then again it may mean nothing. Oleksandr Usyk is a very good Heavyweight, and a southpaw, so I would not favor Fury by much. I would hope that both fighters are taking this very seriously and will show up in the best conditions possible. I cannot wait to see it!
     
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  11. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ngannou and Usyk could hardly be more different stylistically. So I'm not reading too much into Fury's last performance other than that it was below par. Probably just the wakeup call he needed, if anything.

    I'm looking forward to a cracking fight.
     
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  12. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    I am picking Usyk - and I genuinely think he will win fairly decisively.
    Fury, I feel, has been very smoke and mirrors in his career - especially in the last few years. He beat Klitschko... then dropped off the radar (mental health issues aside). He drew with Wilder and, when everyone was clamouring for a rematch... fought Schwartz and Wallin. The clamour for undisputed was high... so he went off and fought Chisora 3 and Ngannou....
    My point is that he has not consistently faced the best. He has taken occasional timed, and calculated risks, which paid off. He is not in the same mould as an Ali, a Lewis or a peak Tyson who fought any pretender to the crown. This has seen him, in some sections of fans and the media, elevated prematurely to ATG status.
    For clarification - I am not saying he's rubbish. I think he is good, very good sometimes. And he has displayed occasional ATG attributes. But I genuinely think he is overrated, his resume is not that deep and he doesn't operate at a consistently high level. He likes to wear the crown more than he likes to test himself defending it. Despite the size difference (in this fight), I think Usyk has proved he is the opposite. Added to that, I believe Fury is declining. He has wasted so much time by NOT engaging in these important and necessary fights he has decreased his own chances of winning.
    Usyk on points, perhaps with a knockdown or two along the way for good measure. And, yes, if Fury wins of course I will give him credit - but I'll always mark him down for not engaging in these fights much, much sooner.
     
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  13. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Imo usyk will utterly school fury and perhaps stop him late. Joshua is faster, physically stronger, better chin, better endurance and stamina + always in shape.

    Fury is slow, way slower than aj and usyk, is slightly bigger than joshua but not physically stronger.
    He has a better defense than joshua, a better jab and better ring IQ, and great at dirty tactics ,but his weight gaining and slimming down and not staying in shape and abusing his body took a lot out of him.
    Mentality he is nowhere near to usyk. I even see fury getting disqualified for extensive fouling (punching under the belt line and excessive holding) to save his face and have an excuse that he could have won without the disqualification.

    Usyk all the way!
     
  14. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I have picked him from the beginning. I think he will surprise some with his performance

    Am I as confident as when the fight was first made? Honestly, no

    I see this as close to 50/50 and obviously going by recent fights, understandably Usyk looks the favourite

    However, I think Fury performs best when his back is against the wall and for all of his drama and BS outside of the ring. Nobody can question his heart inside of it

    I'm picking a late stoppage Fury
     
  15. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    No he will destroy him