Will Hopkisn neutralize Calzaghe's high punch output .....

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  1. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    Let's stay on topic... see the thread title - it will give you a clue.
     
  2. KayEpps

    KayEpps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes - B-Hop always finds a way to neutralize his opponent best weapon.

    After being Countered - Calzaghe will start choosing his punches wisely. But once he starts thinking about his punch selection - it's the end of the fight for him.
     
  3. Jase2483

    Jase2483 Everyday I'm Hustlin' Full Member

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    No valid counter points? Just what I suspected.

    Joe C's output will be severely neutralized, he will have to work way harder than ever before to win this fight, and I wouldn't be shocked at all if b-hop turns it into a hideously ugly fight and out points Joe.

    Joe leaves himself ready in a lot of situations for nasty counterpunching cause of his awkward style - i think bhop's ability playing the angles will allow him to land
     
  4. Jase2483

    Jase2483 Everyday I'm Hustlin' Full Member

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    :good :happy

    great post
     
  5. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    Joe leaves himself open in high paced fights, yes. This isn't going to be a high paced fight. Calzaghe is going to box like you've never seen him box in the 3-4 fights you've seen. It only takes one of Joe's punches to land for BHop to cover up. This is when Joe will be at his most successful with a quick combo before moving out of range.

    Calzaghe's footwork is the best that Hopkins will have faced since Roy Jones Jnr. He's quick on his feet and Hopkins will have to work harder than ever to smother Joe in the mid and late rounds. This, coupled with his hand speed makes him a formidable opponent at this stage in his career. If Hopkins beats Joe, I will be astounded and we can consider Joe's career based on the manner of the defeat, not before.
     
  6. Jase2483

    Jase2483 Everyday I'm Hustlin' Full Member

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    3-4 fights? Thanks for telling me how many Joe C fights I've seen
    I've probably got video on 20 of them sitting at my house. Don't ever imply that I don't know a fighter when I make a statement. But I'm sure you've seen every one of his thrilling and utterly masterful wins - right? (by the way, thrilling and utterly masterful was me being completely facetious)

    So if Joe C loses - will you be willing to admit his legacy is a sham and that his career was exposed?

    I just don't think he's *that* good.....or even close to it.
     
  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, I take a bit of issue with the "Joe C. loses, his legacy is a sham and he is exposed."

    Hopkins may be just that good. He is already an ATG, one of the best MW of all time, and a helluva fighter. Losing to him can't possibly expose you as a fighter.
     
  8. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    Exactly my thoughts. It will also depend on the fight.
     
  9. TFFP

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    To some extent

    Mainly because of all that homo hugging he likes to engage in
     
  10. Jase2483

    Jase2483 Everyday I'm Hustlin' Full Member

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    All I'm saying is who has Joe C fought thats even close to being great? Kessler....i think thats by far the best opponent he's ever fought, and is there anyone else you can even rate as a A- fighter on his resume?

    I'm sorry, I'm all about giving respect where respect is due. But he fought in a garbage weightclass, never going up or down for better competition, and never really leaving his safe and comfortable europe.
     
  11. TFFP

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    And Hopkins has left his safe and comfortable US of A how many times exactly?

    Let me help you out, it's twice, the same as Joe Calzaghe
     
  12. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    So if he wins against Hopkins and proves he can step up from B and C level opponents and operate at this "elite" level, you will be forced to accept that he is actually a half decent boxer?
     
  13. Jase2483

    Jase2483 Everyday I'm Hustlin' Full Member

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    Yea more than happily will. I have no problem giving him credit for it.

    But are you willing to admit that if he loses to an over the hill b-hop that he was nothing more than someone who continually beat b and mainly c minus fighters, and doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as ANY ATG?
     
  14. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ok, so by your estimation then , if Calzaghe wins, you would say his entire career is validated by this fight? I don't agree with either scenario. Both are great fighters, and I give a certain amount of credit for cleaning out a division. Remember, Hopkins division wasn't that strong. When it was, he faced none of the fighters who were big names there (or the weight above him) much like Calzaghe. I do however, give credit to Hopkins for the same thing.
     
  15. Jase2483

    Jase2483 Everyday I'm Hustlin' Full Member

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    EFFFF NO - beating b-hop still wont put him close to being an ATG

    But the fact without beating anyone ever considered a world class elite, and people still try to say he's an ATG is just utterly disrespectful to the history and the sport of boxing.