Willie Pep v Manny Pacqiao

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  1. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    seeing as you were with them personally i'll take your word:good
     
  2. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not the case here. Pep is a consensus ATG with amazing skills. Now if it was Pac. vs. say Danny "Little Red" Lopez, and everyone was picking Lopez I would agree with you.
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    thanks for the insight. :good

    was pep more of a stand-up counterpuncher or a guzman type slick boxer who slips punches and then hops on his bike?
     
  4. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow, you have been around both of these guys. You must have quite a few boxing stories. Care to share any??
     
  5. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm just older than dirt, st. You might wanna check-out my writing site:

    http://home.earthlink.net/~joerein/
     
  6. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pep didn't exactly float like a butterfly and sting like one; he had a tona KOs most people don't realize. He was a stand-up boxer that barely touched the ground, landing flurries of accurate punches from every angle and danced away in every direction.

    It was like watching the consummate bullfighter (Ya didn't wanna cheer; ya wanted yell OLE!) Except he'd rarely thrust home with a single shot. He got the kill by attrition.
     
  7. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac by KO
     
  8. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Pep outboxes this guy to a 15 round decision ...

    one of the best left hand jabs in the biz - ever ... a great defensive style ... and great reflexes --
     
  9. john garfield

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    great analysis..
     
  11. ZippyMan

    ZippyMan Active Member Full Member

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    My Father watched Pep fight a few times and he said that Pep was unreal. Even with top competition he could turn it up a notch or two when needed and completly dominate. From what I understand he started slowly on occation just to give the audience a show and then close it as he saw fit.

    Manny is one of my favorites today but I would have to go with Pep.
     
  12. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your dad was right, ZM. And as unreal as Willie was, what was more unreal: He could that from day one in the gym -- no long, painful journey to learn his craft -- a mosquito blessed with a divine gift. And he worked overtime to abuse it-- burned the candle at both ends and in the middle.

    It staggers the imagination how good he could've been had he spent as much time in the gym as he did in gin mills and the track.
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

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    thanks again john.

    so who won in your sparring?
     
  14. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'da kicked his ass if I'da been able ta find'm. If they'da given points for how stupid ya look, I'da got the nod.
     
  15. john garfield

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