I don't see the big deal of bringing up the Saddler fights. A. Pep was past his prime clearly for all of the Saddler fights B. Pep outboxed Saddler and was well ahead on the cards in 3 of the 4 fights..but dirty tactics caused him to quit. I do agree with the consensus...Ike is simply too big for Pep. Ike might be the greatest lightweight of all time...Willie was not even a big 126lber. Hard for me to envision Ike's two fisted attack not putting away willie.