Winky on PED's?!?!

the thing is this is not under the rules of a boxing sanctioning body. it's just a mere demand of his opponent. if he doesnt feel like he has to do it, then he shouldnt. he has a lot of options, he is not that desperate to please floyd and give in to his demands.

 

Winky would have took the tests............PEROID

 

What I dont get is how *******s seem to think that asking for the test is somehow worse then Cotto being strongarmed into putting his title on the line below the weight.

 

Sure, but that's like telling a family member you won't do him/her a small favor because you don't feel like it.

I paid good money to support Pac and his name. Would like to see him do me a small favor by giving in just a bit so not only I but fans all over the world will get to see a mega fight.

 

He sure does have the right to walk away and not submit to the tests.......

......but let me remind you that the decisions one makes in the course of one's life follow you.......

.....in this case, people have the right to question and even judge Pacquiao's refusal.

.......this is the type of decision for Pacquiao that may follow him to his grave.

 

or floyd could just send a petition to NSAC or other bodies for the improvement of drug testing in boxing. i think up to now, there's still no petition sent to NSAC.

 

Just think - all it takes are a few random blood tests in which each would only last for about a minute (if even that) to permanently remove the cloud of suspicion that could stick with him forever. I don't want to insult Pac's intelligence, but...damn, he is making it awfully hard for me to hold back.

 

well, according to what pac have said in his interviews, he feels weakened whenever blood is drawn from him (i dont know if that's just his superstition or mental ****). so it wouldnt be a "small favor" if he feels that he would be at a disadvantage if he does it.

 

d, do I have to remind you that this is boxing we're talking about, the most corrupt sport in the history of sports.........

Floyd could petition the NSAC all he wants, but these type of petitions usually fall on deaf ears and are ignored.

There have been plenty of people in the know like Victor Conte who have concluded that not just boxing, but other sports as well would rather not find out if their players are juicing......


Baseball for example went quite a few years where the ball was leaving the ballpark in record numbers.
All of sudden there were handfuls of players hitting 50 homeruns a season when before there had been only one that had reached that number in 20 years......

......Baseball ignored it and continued to do so until the US senate got involved and started probing and asking questions.
Had it not been for the interference of the US senate, McGuire, Sosa, Palmiero, etc......would all now be in the HOF.......and Roger Clemens would be sitting pretty at home with the label of greatest pitcher who ever took a mound.


If boxing continues to ignore this issue in boxing, you watch the US senate get involved and bring boxing to its knees.
......and it may take that too to get boxing to change its ways.


Mayweather imo did it for himself, but the end result at the end of the tunnel imo is that it will benefit every fighter who's unwilling to put drugs and chemicals in their bodies......as there may finally be a level playing field for them.

 

this. ^ i bet pac's camp would do it if the sanctioning body will order them to.

boxer/boxer's camps are filled with ego's and pride. why do you think they argue about the percentage of the purse when they will clearly get great sum of money regardless of % they would get? because they don't like it when thy give in to the other camps demands. jmm settled for a 5-digit payday fighting chris john instead of getting loads of cash fighting pac because didn't want to give in to the purse split demanded by pacs group. IMO this is the same with pac's camp. if i remember it right, pac-cotto also had problems with the purse split. pac has been saying in local interviews that he's had enough of giving in to his previous opponent's demads regarding the purse split (hatton, ODLH) thats why they were firm on getting the lions share against cotto. pac's camp feels like they are now in a position where they dont have that need to do what the other camp wants them to do especially if it's not necessary. IMO its enough that they follow the rules given and they dont need to do anything extra just to please floyd.

 

Listen, If you've ever even sparred, anytime someone is kicking your arse in the gym you feel like you just feel weak that day......

......thats how one feels, you feel weak when you're getting your rear end handed to you.
Pacquiao feeling weak had nothing to do with having blood drawn from him......he was getting his arse kicked and thats the reason he felt weak.

The last time Edison Miranda fought Arthur Abraham, I remember Miranda stating afterward, "I felt weak under his assault."

Its logical that when you're getting beat, you're not going to be feeling strong.



.......and I will add that for the Morales fight, blood was drawn from Pacquiao on the day of the fight. What he refused was blood being drawn 14 days before the fight, he wanted 24 days.

Pacquiao's exuse???? "Eahvy training!"nut:nut

 

well, i'm just stating what pac said. but arguing with you seems pointless since you sound like you've already made up your mind that pac's lying.

 

for the record, i'm not saying that pac is clean and ****. but as far as i'm concerned, i still believe that one should still be considered innocent until proven guilty and not the other way around.

 

CC, I made a point and a damn good one I might add, and you respond with this post????

You dont have to have sparred to see what I mean.

Have you've ever played football or basketball.....some kind of contact sport.......if someone is outmanuevering you and outphysicalling you on the football field or the basketball court......you dont feel like you're very strong on that day.......
99% of the time it has nothing to do with being weaker on the day, but that weakness is felt because the other guys was just stronger than you were.

When you're outgunned, whether its due to brute force or just skill, you're likely to feel weak.

You can be sick on that day, but if you're physically stronger and have better skill than your opponent, you may actually experience and feel strong at the moment you're competing.

Getting the better of your opponent makes you feel strong.
Your opponent getting the better of you makes you feel weak.

I dont believe thats a hard concept to understand.
.....but I guess with you I just must be a hater for bringing up such logic.:roll:

 

so you dont believe that pac feels weak after getting his blood drawn?