atsch JOEs six inch punch wouldnt even reach the guy ! SIZE PLUS SKILL is a BIG ADVANTAGE ! Thats why there are weight classes ! In fact if there were IQ classes on this board this point wouldnt be debated so much !:yep
I can't help but watch Brock v Wlad and think Louis could and would spark Wlad. I saw certain things that developed my thoughts. I always thought Wlad would be a ***** for more or less anyone. I still do, but not AS MUCH! Brock lands a scoring shot but Louis lands a lights out shot. Wlads still coming into his own. Let him develop, still much to do. The only thing that can be said is that Wlad isn't the finished article and until he is, its not worth discussing yet.
Yeah bad match-up for Louis, but that I think any unbiased boxing fan will tell you that Joe is the greatest heavyweight ever, based on his accomplishments, while Wlad still has a lot of work cut out for him if he even wants to be considered 'great'
100 % true what you just said. If Wlad fought back in the 30s and 40s his chin would be exposed more times than Paris Hiltons *****. Wlad would be the joke of the division if he fought back then, its just goes too show you how bad the Heavywieght division really is right now.
Those gents are all lacking in ability and fundamentals. Size is pretty much all they have, the same cannot be said about Wlad.
Yes your "logic" is flawless :roll: A 200 lb CWs 6 inch punch would flatten a top modern HW because the 200 lb CW KO'd other CWs and unskilled big guys like Carnera??? Uh huh :nut Wlad is just as big as Primo but much more skilled - bigger puncher too. Some hater suggested that those of us that think this way are "nuts". You're denying basic physics with your bias for past HWs, making non arguments, and we're the loons :nut :-( Take off the rose colored glasses and get back to us. Like I've said before, would love to bet you guys on these match ups in a time machine. You'd stop the bets and excuses faster than LL, K bros or other modern HWs would expose - and KTFO - your idols. :yep
Expose them? Expose them as what exactly? And if Davaryl Williamson can put Wlad on his ass, you'd better believe that Louis could not only put him on his ass, but take him out with a single punch.
yeah I got that fight on tape, Wlad was knocked down by a ****ing jab. Louis was a master boxer while Wlads just the best of a bad heavywieght division, the people who say that Wlad would beat joe have to be kidding themselves. Yeah thats see if Wlad could hold the title for 10 more years, I bet he losses it in the next 2 years.
As overrated. If Tony Galento can stagger and drop a prime JL you'd better believe Wlad would stop Louis with a half jab/hook. Joe must have been edgy and impressed watching Galento butcher a plate of meatballs :rofl See, this is easy. We can make these comps all day long. For his era & size, Joe Louis was a great fighter. Why can't you give Wlad his due? Both fighters were/are gracious sportsmen, not goofy "gangstas".
Nobody that you mentioned is even close to Wlad's league. So, what you are saying makes no sense. Nobody said that you can take any 6'7" guy off of the street and he would beat old smaller champions. What they are saying is that if you take Wladimir Klitschko..... who happens to be the #1 heavyweight in the world today, and a former Gold Medalist as well (proving his great boxing ability).... if you take Wlad who is a great Champion in his own right, and match him up against a great Champion of the past, who was amazing for his time, but would be a cruiserweight today..... then logic would tell you that Wlad with his size AS WELL AS HIS great technical boxing abilities, would come out the winner. We aren't just talking about some big guy. We are talking a very big Heavyweight Champion, who has a great jab... a great right hand with one punch knockout power in it... a great left hook with one punch knockout power in it... top footwork for a man of his size... and fights with superior intelligence. The comment that you made about Louis flattening Wlad with the first 6 inch punch that touched his jaw just shows your ignorance and bias.
And I imagine that a fighter that utilizes a simple jab and stright right hand beats the most technically apt HW of all time easily right? I think that just because Wlad can actually move his feet and he's the size that he is, you immediately assume he makes easy work of Louis. I'll tell you one thing, Louis would have made easier work of Calvin Brock, thats for damn sure.