Wlad vs Brewster 1

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  1. Flurry

    Flurry Krautchamp Full Member

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    It was a very strange fight, Foremans jab decribed it pretty accurately.

    I 'm not making any sort of excuses, mind, Wlad also was blown out in only 2 rounds by Sanders and IM not making excuses for that fight either although it was a much clearer affair and made wlad look stupid having to pick himself up from the canvas 4 times in only 2 rounds. The Brewster One fight looked odd to say the least. I dont have a logical explanation for what happened, but Im not believing at all in the "he punched himself out" story, it was only a few rounds into the fight and though he did dominate the fight until then he wasnt throwing punches non stop. Brewster didn't start to apply a lot of pressure until the end of the 4th or rather at the beginning of the 5th. It was something else. But have to leave it at that as it couldnt be proven someone actually manipulated the thing.
     
  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Foreman was beating Ali sideways non stop. The next min he was on his back. No middle ground.

    Was Foreman drugged too?

    Wlad went to hospital afterward and a drug test came back negative.

    Klitt fanboys are the most pathetic excuse makers in boxing.

    Not even Wlad himself makes these sad excuses.
     
  3. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes but he was taking the shots well. The deterioration in his condition wasn't from the punches. It was from whatever was causing his sudden fatigue. Show me a moment were Brewster ever knocked Klitschko down from punches. It never happened. He collapsed at the end of round 5 from his fatigue. No knockdown was called. He just fell down. He was so tired it took him 15-20 seconds to get up. Then the fight gets called when he is walking sluggishly to his corner. I've never ever seen that before. Very bizarre.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Because the ropes were holding him up dumbass.

    He staggered across the ring from a Brewster beating into the ropes. As soon as he came off the ropes he fell over.
     
  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    The only explanation for this is that you never seen the fight. You're so full of ****...Embarrassing

    http://heavyweightblog.s3.amazonaws.com/knnimages/wladimir-klitschko-vs-lamon-brewster.gif
     
  6. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The gif also cuts out also cuts out several seconds of him struggling from fatigue to get up.
     
  8. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    How do you know what would motivate him and why? Maybe he watches because it makes him mad.

    I'm undecided on the drugging conspiracy, but saying he wouldn't use the footage for motivation if he thought he'd been drugged is hardly a strong argument IMO.
     
  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    The gif doesn't shoe beating Brewster was landing on him before it started.

    Getting hit in the body will cause exhaustion. You know nothing about boxing.

    Foreman couldn't get up from fatigue. Was he drugged too?
     
  10. dinovelvet

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    Because he said so himself. He keeps a reminder of the fight in his gym bag and it gives him motivation.

    His own words.
     
  11. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    Yes ... I acknowledged that he uses it for motivation, simply that none of us can claim to know why it motivates him.

    I mean how does anyone know that what motivates him isn't the feeling of betrayal or anger watching it gives him - it's too big a leap to assume 'well he obviously wasn't drugged or else the tape wouldn't motivate him'.

    I'm not saying anything except that Wlads choice of motivational materials really doesn't support EITHER case.
     
  12. Brighton bomber

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    He wasn't punching non stop but he was punching a lot for him. Over 70 punches per round in the first 2 rounds about 60 plus in the next 2 rounds. He threw 32 punches in the first minute of round 2 alone and load after he dropped Brewster.

    But most importantly it what he was doing between the punching that cost him the fight. Steward had started teaching him to clinch but he didn't fully understand it's strategic importance yet.

    Just watch the 2 fights he had with Brewster and see the difference. In the first fight he was over physical, pushing Brewster to the ropes every time he clinched, he wasn't using the clinching to rest like in the 2nd fight. What Wlad was doing was wrestling in the clinches. He was basically fighting 2 fights. One was a boxing match one was a wrestling match and that used up all his reserves he never took a moment to rest until it was too late.

    It was a strategic error, partly his fault, partly Steward's for not getting him to understand it's significance. Learning a skill is one thing, but knowing why and when to use it as another.
     
  13. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patsch
    How could you possibly relate the Foreman-Ali fight to this one? In that fight Foreman punched himself out in a gradual manner over a longer period of time. He was throwing a ridiculous number of punches a round. Most of them were big winging power shots, many of which were missing which takes a lot of energy. He threw something like 125 punches in round 7 of his fight with Ali. He never showed the symptoms of extreme fatigue that Wlad very suddenly was displaying. Dropping of the arms, heavy ragged breathing etc.

    In round 8 a gradually fatigued Foreman ACTUALLY GETS KNOCKED DOWN FROM PUNCHES. A knockdown is called.
    When he gets knocked down he is not fatigued enough not to get up inside a ten count.

    http://www.tubechop.com/watch/4122315

    Compare this to Wlad Brewster where Klitschko DOES NOT GET KNOCKED DOWN FROM PUNCHES but instead on his own volition from fatigue. No knockdown is called. The fatigue is so bad it takes him many seconds to get up.

    http://www.tubechop.com/watch/4122407
     
  14. dinovelvet

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    He said he was thankful to Brewster. He gives him the respect and credit he deserves , unlike the fanboys.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

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    His sudden fatigue was due him blowing his load in the final minute of the 4th round after he dropped Brewster. He went in for the kill threw a punch of punches trying to take him out and then early in the 5th still went for the KO and it cost him.

    He got caught while fatigued. There was nothing miraculous about his deterioration. The commentators said he looked like he was tiring in the 3rd, what's so sudden about that happened in the 5th when 2 rounds before the signs of tiredness were clearly evident to those watching.