Wlad vs Sultan one step close to a real HW champion

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by KO byBRIGGS, Feb 23, 2008.


  1. dragosuhail

    dragosuhail Active Member Full Member

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    **** your getting desperate
     
  2. KO byBRIGGS

    KO byBRIGGS Making a comeback Full Member

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    By your logic there should onyl have ever been on belt. There are now 4 major sanctioning bodies that are recognized. Wheather you like it or not WBO is just as legit as the other 3.
     
  3. Irländsk

    Irländsk Boxing Addict banned

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    Agreed, and to take it a step further the WBO is more legitimate than the WBC lately. I will be happy enough if the winner tonight can unify the WBA within a year, let the WBC **** about for 4years with their bull**** rules and mandatories, no one would take them seriously with one man holding the other three belts anyway.
     
  4. BoxingGuru

    BoxingGuru Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, it is.
     
  5. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unification means that you are getting together some things that have been separated... Now tell me when did the WBO title was unified with the others? Wlad won it from Byrd who won it from Vitaly... Just because these three were LATER WBC and IBF titlists doesn't mean anything for the WBO... Brewsta won the vacant title ( when Sanders fought Vitaly for the WBC vacant title in the Staples, LA) and then simply lost it to Lyakhovich, the rest is history... This is a good fight between two top Hwts and one is undefeated - I don't know if this can have a butterfly effect on the Division and a series of unification fights... Wlad vs Chagaev or Wlad vs winner of Peter-Maskaev most certainly would.
     
  6. Sputnik44

    Sputnik44 Active Member Full Member

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    Why the hell are we so hung up on belts and sanctioning bodies? Why does some BS strap make a man a champion where as the other straps don't

    as far as I'm concerned the alphabet soup is as bad for boxing as don king...

    Why is it that we as boxing fans can't look at a group of fighters and collectively debate the skills and merits of their resume's?

    isn't it obvious that Wlad has beaten better fighters, been more active, and has been impressive enough in his wins to be called the number 1 regardless of what belt he has...

    now he fights another fighter (**** the belt) who has been active and impressive in his wins...if wlad wins this fight it will further cement his position as the #1


    Oleg Maskaev (hasn't fought in how long, beat who) vs Sam Peter (Lost to Wlad and made a comeback win against McCline, far from impressive)

    how can you call that a more important fight? I'm embaressed for anyone who believes that.


    Seriously **** the belts **** the organizations just look at the fighters
     
  7. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm sorry but recognized by whom? Let's not fall into the endless riddle-vicious circle that the Ring Mag recognizes whatever because theirs is another championship and they call all "alphabet" organizations... The WBO title is legit and more important than the IBO's, the WBU's or the IBC's but less credible than the WBC's, the WBA's and the IBF's - No other titlist would put his major title on the line for the WBO's and against Sultan ( only fought 2 title fights and in the last year), Wlad is doing it cause he has a good relationship with the WBO and is a former WBO Champ himself.
     
  8. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Its facts dear boy, believe the hype if you want but when you look at the facts Wlad isnt any more THE champion after beating Sultan than the Maskaev/Peter winner.
     
  9. KO byBRIGGS

    KO byBRIGGS Making a comeback Full Member

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    No it doesnt it means bringing titles together they never had to be together previously to be unified.
    Me and most people on here would say the WBO is an official championship. Many titlist do put their belts up in other weight classes to unify the WBO and whatever they have. Klitschko's relationship to the belt has nothing to do with it.
     
  10. Sputnik44

    Sputnik44 Active Member Full Member

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    again **** the organizations I'll recognize who I believe is the heavyweight champion and I'll pay good money to see him fight, whoever it is now and in the future and as soon as they realize that most boxing fans would do the same then there will be a change in the whole structure of boxing
     
  11. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good fights? Briggs vs Sultan, Sultan vs 46 year old Holyfield, lol.

    In fact it was the WBO that stripped Sanders for facing Vitali for the WBC title. In fact the true WBO lineage went with Sanders into that fight and Vitali was the WBC, Ring, lineal and in reality he beat the WBO champion. After Vitali that lineage passed to Rahman and onto Maskaev. The fight between Maskaev and Peter is the true World title fight for those lineal reasons, it traces back to Lewis whereas the IBF and WBO being contested tonight trace back to nothing.

    Sultans WBO title comes from Brewster beating Wlad for the vacant belt! The only lineage Wlad is unifying is the lineage of his loss to Brewster for a vacant belt!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  12. KO byBRIGGS

    KO byBRIGGS Making a comeback Full Member

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    Those are not reasons for the Peter vs Maskaev fight to be the true champion......and for pathetic defenses look back at Maskaevs last defense....O'kello or something like that? give me a break that was a joke. You make absolutely no senses at all..... Lewis ended the linear line period.
     
  13. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OK, I will buy that even though I am not sure about what you're saying or if you are sure about what you're saying.

    Tell me, KO byBRIGGS, will the winner of this fight obey to the WBO policy and face number one contender ( Tony T or other) and how will the IBF deal with it? Are you sure the WBO will not create a WBO interim title and later streap the winner of tonight's bout of the WBO HWT title like they did to Juan Diaz concerning Katsidis at LWT? If the title is as credible and legitimate, what would you say if the winner of this bout completely disregards the WBO ratings, contenders and policies?
     
  14. KO byBRIGGS

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    I am not sure they will make the winner face Tony Thompson, what about the IBF #1 contender...... This is the problem with all these mandatories. I can`t guarantee anything but look how long it took Sam Peter to get his chance after becoming number 1 contender. There is problems with all of the sanctioning bodies, once a champion is champ he should not have to face all the mandatories of each sanctioning body.
     
  15. Dorfmeister

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    Now I am completely puzzled... Klitschko was sure to face the IBF #1 contender Alexander Povetkin even before he took an almost tune-up fight in between against Sultan. If he is going to honor the WBO title like he's doing to the IBF, he has to face Tony T or else what will the WBO say to Thompson "Alright, you won a WBO eliminator against Kraniqi in Germany but that doesn't mean nothing now"??? Your fighter Briggs could have recovered from pneumonia well and had faced Wlad himself but the WBO mandated him to face Sultan! Margo could have faced Cotto but had to face PW, so how come Wlad should be an exception? More titles means more fights and more money - that's how it has always been.