wladimir klitschko vs a peak frazier

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  1. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    -Wlad is open to the body, in fact he often gives it to his opponents to protect his chin. This would be his undoing if he can't put Frazier away early.

    -I think Steward and Wlad would come up with a program combination like Foreman's jab/uppercut to time Joe and go for the knockout. Maybe the left hook/uppercut he kept using on Peter in the rematch? But if Frazier can overcome it, I think his chances increase with each round he makes it out of.
     
  2. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Brilliant move.

    Throw a left hook from the outside on Joe Frazier (as we know Wlad has no inside game). I wonder if Frazier will use that as an opportunity to duck and counter, especially considering his bob and weave style.

    So what the **** exactly is it that you're talking about?

    And not mention your other post about Wlad throwing a left uppercut. Why don't you show me some film of Wlad actually throwing this punch before you just assume he'll start despite no evidence of him doing this before.

    His brother, yes, Wlad no.

    So please get off a mother ****er's dick and start posting things based on facts rather that just making things up as you go.
     
  3. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    truth is wlad is too limited and doesn't throw the uppercut enough to beat frazier
     
  4. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol: You call me an idiot after posting **** like that?

    WALDO KO'd Peter with an uppercut did he? He hit Peter with about 20 unanswered shots, if the uppercut was the final one it was more the straw that finally broke the camels back more than anything else, don't act like WALDO has a lethal uppercut because that's just ****ing ridiculous to the point of insanity.

    While we're on that subject though, who the **** was Sam Peter, exactly? Joe Frazier beat the best HW ever when he was still reasonably good, and floored the guy with a single left hook in the process. It took WALDO 3 left hooks to floor Austin, and his fans still do the circle jerk over it to this day and list it amongst his best wins :rofl

    This is comparing apples to oranges, Frazier would ****ing crush WALDO, and brutally.
     
  5. it is probably one of the most absurd and ridiculous posts
    principally because frazier was stronger late, he had much more stamina and he keep coming, wlad would be tired in the round 7. and you said that wlad would have been more dominant late. the logic thing is that wlad would win the first 3-4 rounds, but frazier would own him later.his stamina,pressure and he would work inside constantly , it would be the key factor
     
  6. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier got dropped early by Bonavena, who couldn't finish him off with a third and final knockdown despite well over a minute remaining in round two. Mike Bruce also inflicted an opening round eight count on a green Smoke which Joe recovered from. The man could weather a crisis.

    Beating Joe is more than merely coming up from under with hard uppercuts either. Manuel Ramos was a taller heavyweight who actually fought a smart fight for as long as he lasted against Frazier, repeatedly catching him coming in with right and left uppercuts. But Foreman was a different kind of animal, aggressive shoving him backwards with freak strength before aggressively unloading huge sweeping uppercuts with freak power behind them. From what I understand about Wlad, he's far more reactive than George, and doesn't share that same combination of aggression, physical strength and initiatory power with which Foreman imposed himself.

    Beating Joe took either the peculiar combination of factors peak Foreman brought to the table, or the veteran legs, insane toughness and heart, and all time 15 round endurance of a prime GOAT. Do any of Wlad's qualities measure up to those traits possessed by either George or Ali?
     
  7. bored

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    If Wlad were to come out and put on his best performance then I can't make my mind up who to lean towards but if he was fighting a Joe Frazier who was 26-0 with 23 ko's like Ali faced I don't believe that we would see the best version of Wlad and he might go into his shell somewhat.
     
  8. The Mongoose

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    Wow, this post turns me on!!!! So much raw passion and anger. I bet your a lioness in the sack, mate.
     
  9. The Mongoose

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    I'm not certain it was 20, not calling you a liar or anything....can you go back and count for me? I would be in your debt.

    Can you find a bio on Sam Peter? I really want you to explain to me who the **** he is?

    I know Frazier floored Foster with a single left hook but he was hardly the best HW ever, I'm confused can you explain further?

    No, no, I'm pretty sure it was 2 hooks that actually connected with Austin. I think you should revisit the footage.

    Please provide links of fans listing Austin as his best win. I want to read this for myself.

    What's a circle jerk? Can you provide a link and video?
     
  10. manbearpig

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  11. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes it is hilarious....he actually thought I was referring to Bob Foster when I said Frazier knocked down the best HW ever with a left hook :patsch

    Also the Austin thing....I've seen WALDO fans time and time again bring that up as one of his greatest performances. "WOW WALDO landed 3 left hook in a row!! Did you hear that first one, it sounded like a shotgun!!"

    Sam Peter again - I don't need to provide a biography of the guy to point out that he was a very, very average HW yet the Klitschko lovers all fawn over WALDO struggling to beat him once and then owning him once his big brother knocked all the fight out of the guy (after he'd had 2 close fights with fat Toney)

    This is what we're reduced to....people saying WALDO is better than someone like Joe Frazier on the strength of wins like that. It truly ****ing pains me to have to try to point it out but I'll keep doing it until the man actually beats someone worth beating, same goes for his brother.
     
  12. The Mongoose

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    -****, it's not Foster!!! Ok....I want to say your talking about Quarry, but I don't think he went down from a left hook.

    -Sorry man, I need links. I'm writing a term paper. And are you sure it's THREE!!! Please revisit the footage, my computer sucks, I can't tell.

    -So is Sam Peter the white dude from Africa? You are all over the place.

    -I know its outrageous! I can't believe WLADO Frazier is winning the poll by such an overwhelming majority.
     
  13. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    **** this 4 pages ****! what the hell? who are these 41 brigands who don't acknowledge wlad's greatest. fools! charlatans!