Wladimir Klitschko vs. Joe Louis.

Ross Purity was a very tough fighter but also a career journeyman. That's not to say he was a "bad" fighter by any means. He certainly could have given a lot of people problems. Sanders was 37 years old and hadn't been fighting much lately. Brewster was good but in a fringe sense prior to beating Klit. Those guys only became alpha champs because they beat Wlad. But I agree with some of your points. they weren't bums.

 

Purity was a stamina related and corner related type of loss. They should have known Purity is not easy to put away and told Wlad to tie him up / pace himself in the later rounds. At that point, Wlad had not gone past 8 rounds and was trying too hard to impress in front of his home town. He was also mildly ill going into the match.

Brewster won a title from Wlad and was good enough to defend it three times. Hardly fringe. I'm still not sure how Brewster got up. That could have been Wald best right-hand punch!

Walcott in my opinion and 2/3 of the sports writers at ringside opinion should have beaten Louis. He was 33, and thought of as a " journeyman "

 

Wlad wouldn't last two rounds against Louis.. Joe does not mess about and he would go in there to annihilate.

The only chance WK has is taking Joe to Germany where he is allowed lock up Joe in a bear hug every time he gets close. The ref then separates Joe to the other side of the ring every time , all the while WK is putting all his weight down on Joe's spinal cord.
That was his modus operandi , that was his only way of beating top contenders. Thats whats visible on film.

It didn't take greats like Louis to be able to beat WK on neutral territory. Under these circumstances he couldn't even dominate a rudimentary novice Jennings. He was stripped bear in that bout and looked bang average.

But but WK was past prime then .. NO , his performance was down to the ref enforcing him to box a clean fight and he couldn't do it. . 100%.
Ortiz was the same age and he chopped Jennings in half. Easily. Without a single clinch.. WK was in a lot better condition than Ortiz.
Jennings had basic club boxer skills. There's no excuse for that performance. The reality is WK is an overrated manufactured pretend boxer and if you put him inside the ring against Louis he'd have a panic attack before the first glove even touched him.

 

maybe dino, its impossible to say, I just see Wlads jab being a problem for Joe. Well that and his size and yes I am aware that Joe destroyed some big dudes, I simply don't think those big dudes had the skills/strength/etc that Wladdy has or had. But Joe had a cannon so who really knows.

 

I always felt Wlad's management should have scheduled the Purity fight for 10 rounds rather than 12. It might have been a good stepping stone and may have prevented that loss. And yes Brewster won the WBO title from Wlad which is the primary thing is remembered for. Prior to beating Wlad he had beaten virtually nobody. After beating Wlad, he was arguably gifted against Kali Meehan, beat an aged Golata and needed a come from behind win against Luan Krasniqi. Still a respectable fighter though. And Walcott ? I'm pretty sure he was the #1 contender who had beaten Elmer Ray, Jimmy Bivens, Joey Maxim, and Lee Q Murray among others. Not really a journeyman.

 

Oh for christ's sake don't feed him.. This was shaping up to be a solid thread.

 

lmao,, I know I know, it was a moment of weakness, I above all should know this!!!

 

Seconded. In a good thread, I'll try to abstain from quoting him too.

 

"In your opinion ",which is worthless because you haven't seen the complete fight!
Walcott wasn't," thought of as a journeyman", he was the number 3 ranked heavyweight in the world!
He would be the number 1 in 47 and 48!.. In contrast to Brewster who was unranked and had lost his last fight, Sanders who was unranked and Purrity who was unranked had never earned a ranking and had lost 3 of his last 4 fights..No comparison at all!

 

In your opinion Walcott beat Louis? How did you score it?

 

haha, so wlad thought " well io have this guy beat np, I think I'll just try and see what happens if I punch myself out, cos I am that stupid to do that"

basically you are arguing wlad is a mo.ron level green kid. yes keep that argument going, see where it gets you.

 

Louis proved in his career there is no such thing as too big when it comes to beating him.

If Wlad is allowed to tie up he's got a great chance of winning, let's have it right.

Louis carries his power late, and I believe he only needs one flush shot to end.

Louis ko11

 

After watching Louis vs. Carnera again, it would be hard for me to pick Wlad to beat Louis.

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Contrary to popular belief, Carnera does box well. At least he does so here. Using his size and his range to try to overwhelm Louis. At :24 he walks Louis down by feinting twice with his right, and then landing a surprisingly quick left hook. That's a tactic that will completely overwhelm your average 210lb HW.

But look how relentless Louis is. He is psychologically firm, and doesn't get discouraged. He never hesitates to exploit a single tiny opening. Staying alert, even when eating a big jab, and always mindful of range. And his powerful hooks to the head just look devastating. It seems like he has the speed of Tyson, but with a certain finesse. He doesn't bob and weave 5 times to land a counter. He slips once and lands a perfect overhand right counter, but with killer reacting time and speed.

 

Look at Louis chopping down the giant. He's only ever a good punch or two away.

 

This should be enlightening not to say surreal!