Wladimir Klitschko vs Riddick Bowe

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Better than Bowe at out pointing from range, I think that is clearly evident.

    Did Bowe ever out point anyone better than the 40 year old version of Wlad?
     
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    The clinch allowed him to get punches off. Any time a guy got near him he latched onto them and wouldn't let go until the ref broke and sent the guy to the other side of the ring.
    That tactic is only enabled if the ref is part of his team which he was many times.
    When the ref is neutral Wlad has to fight fair and he comes unstuck every time that happened.

    Fury fought Wlad with a hostile ref and he still won. Tony Weeks didn't even try hide the fact he was there to ensure Wlad was allowed fight his fight. He still lost cos Fury was good enough to take his tactics away from him. He stripped Wlad bare and he had nothing left to offer but run away , hold on even more and head butt
    Fury controlled distance in that fight better than Wlad ever did his his 20 year long career.


    Wlads fights have no rewatchability factor so people tend to forget exactly how these fights played out. Rewatch rounds 2-4 of the Brock fight and tell me thats a guy who'd have a chance against Bowe.
     
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    Honestly not sure how any of this related to what I posted.
     
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    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Evander Holyfield.....
     
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    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    oh against Bowe ( the guy who has poor wins with power punchers b/c he only fought one and got a gift DQ) Fury becomes the giant point fighter,but against other top guys ( better ones ) hes superman ? :aplastao:
     
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    Bowe was very heavy footed,a good slip and hit inside fighter but Klitchko isnt going to just stand there,he was very good and light on his feet dictating ranges. The Klitchko jab as all his match ups becomes the factor here,in short if you cant out jab Wlad you cant beat wlad unless you can out muscle him on the inside and dictate shots from there. I dont recall bowe being a clincher ,i recall him needing his opponents to slug it out with him,even Tubbs was out boxing him in some rounds and out boxed him in sparring all the time.

    Stewards Wlad k.os Futchs Bowe late rnds of punishment that would make Golota fight look nice.
     
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    Bowe easily.The 6'5" Bowe had an incredible heart and good stamina.He beat his every tall opponent.
    w. klitschko looks bad against the decent tall fighters (D. Williamson,Sanders,Fury fights)
     
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    You can throw in Ross Purrity who was 6'4 and knocked him out.

    Wlad looks bad against any fighter with a pulse, who isn't a blown up light heavyweight. Any fighter who can take a punch and moves forward scares him. That is why Bowe would destroy Wlad.
     
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    Wlad from Chagaev to Haye would be too much for Bowe.
     
  10. BCS8

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    Bowe has inferior footwork compared to Wlad, can't dictate range as well and is going to have an inferior jab. Worse, he's not exactly hard to tag. With Wlad's accuracy and power, Bowe is in deep, deep trouble.

    I'll admit that Bowe is bad news up close. But Lufcrazy is right: if Bowe can muscle Wlad on the inside and work, he might have a chance. Unfortunately it seems to me that Klitschko is both taller and stronger than Bowe.

    In a nutshell, Riddick is fooked.

    His one chance is to ship an awful lot of punishment and hope that Wlad gasses a la Ross Puritty. When that's your winning strategy, then you know you have problems.
     
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    He outpointed him on the inside by winning brutal exchanges up close.

    We all know in that situation he knocks Wlad out in a few rounds.

    Has Bowe ever out pointed a good boxer though who's committed to fighting from range and who's ref will allow constant clinching? I don't think he has.
     
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    Golota looked brilliant against him at range when picking him off with his jab and straight potshots. Andrew is a giant dumbass because he had both fights in the bag; all he had to do was keep cool and box. Instead, he mistook Bowe's nutsack for a pinata. Duh.
     
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    Stopped reading right there. How? Explain how WK has superior foot work? You said he was lighter on his feet. I asked you in what fight was he fleet of foot or close there of.. You did not answer.
    Foot work is balance and positioning. A clear sign of somebody who DKSAB is mistaking educated footwork as being slow and ponderous.
    I could bash GGG for being slow and ponderous but i don't cos i understand.
    So , tell me , which fights?
     
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    Morrison had the fight in the bag against Mercer. All he had to do was not get knocked out. YDKSAB :flamethrower2::flipa:
     
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    FALSE. He walked Bowe down. He pressured him , backed him up against the ropes and kept him there throwing an assortment of hooks and body shots. All those things Wlad does NONE of.
    You're desperately trying to turn WK into Golota and its an embarrassment. For you.
     
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