Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by cross_trainer, Aug 18, 2009.

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Who wins?

  1. Wlad PTS

    17 vote(s)
    15.9%
  2. Wlad KO

    64 vote(s)
    59.8%
  3. Rocky KO

    23 vote(s)
    21.5%
  4. Rocky PTS

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
  5. Draw

    2 vote(s)
    1.9%
  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I think it was when George Reeves went.

    My Superman has a beer gut and smokes and can kick your Superman's ass.
     
  2. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I gotta admit we started down the chute when Reeves went, but it was Clayton Moore going that finished the slide.
     
  3. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Gable was 6' 1"

    but you are picking and choosing here. After all during that era Spencer Tracy, Ronald Colman, Wm Powell, Robert Taylor, Marlon Brando, Paul Newman, James Dean, Jack Lemmon, Bing Crosby, Bob Hope, etc were stars. And what about MICKEY ROONEY.

    As for John Wayne, Robert Mitchum was quoted as saying Wayne was about an even six foot but wore lifts to look taller than his co-stars.

    next to Clint Eastwood or Clint Walker, Wayne was a shrimp.
     
  4. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Robert Mitchum on John Wayne

    "John Wayne had four-inch lifts in his shoes. He had the overheads in his boat accommodated to fit him. He had a special roof put in his station wagon. The son-of-a-*****, they probably buried him in his goddamn lifts."
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Bull****, Mitchum was on the hippy lettuce.

    Marion Morrison was a legit 6 foot 4. Look at The Big Trail. He towers over his costars.
     
  6. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I will rewatch The Big Trail because interestingly, watching it convinced me that there might have been something to the lifts business as the Duke didn't look that tall to me in that film.

    This is such an important issue that more research is required.
     
  7. Seamus

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    Raoul Walsh directed. Revenge. Murder. Justice. Not afraid to address any of those issues. Highly rated.
     
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    Wasn't Rob Mitchum a prize fighter in his younger years.
     
  9. edward morbius

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    I was terrifically impressed by the visual values of the widescreen version I watched last night.

    The plot was pretty tepid in my judgement--Duke searching for the guys who murdered his friend. Cliched plot 1-A.

    And the romantic subplot just sort of dragged. The girl being so mad at him because he mistook her for his sister and accidentally gave her a pecking kiss seemed a bit overdone. She hated him almost across the continent before suddenly discovering she couldn't live without him.

    And don't bring up the comic relief.

    but this is well worth watching for the spectacular visuals in the big scenes.

    **But as for the Duke's height. I stand by my memory. He just did not seem ten inches taller than his 5' 6" costar Margarite Chuchill who came up to the bridge of his nose, and seemed very much in the same height range as the 6' 1" Tyrone Power, Sr or the 6' 2" Ian Keith. He did not "tower" over them.

    ***I have read that his publicity for THE BIG TRAIL listed his height as 6' 2". He might have lost some height by the time he co-starred with Mitchum a generation later.

    I don't know, but I will keep an open mind on this.
     
  10. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, amongst almost everything, including being on a chain gang.
     
  11. Seamus

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    It's a beautiful movie to watch. I think that's the most impressive thing about it. Walsh went on to direct many excellent films including Rebel Without a Cause, High Sierra and White Heat. I have spent a lot of time in the area which it was filmed so I am kind of biased.

    Not the most complex of plots but there is a ferocity to the vengeance and a naivete in the romance that I like.

    Oh well, googled John Wayne's height and a lot of anecdotal evidence that he was in the 6-3 to 6-4 range.

    Wlad KO8 Marciano.
     
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    A comparison between Wayne and 6' 6"James Arness is possible via that anti -commie pot boiler Big Jim McClain.
     
  13. Rajon Rondo

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    Other way around sunshine. Rocky KO8 Wlad.
     
  14. Seamus

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    John Wayne's greatest movie is without doubt The Conqueror. He plays the infamous, great Genghis Khan with precision and a depth of complexity theretofore seen. A performance that is simply mesmerizing.

    Wlad KO8 Marciano. A simple mismatch.
     
  15. Rajon Rondo

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    Although I disagree with you in this instance, your posts do make me laugh. In a good way.