Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

Marciano's elbow follow through after the left hook is one of the best in history. Amazing 1-2 strike. He'd clean your clock with the left hand, then slam you in the face with the left elbow, clean as ****.

And the low blows. So many low blows.

Dirty fighting, fouling, bending the rules is as part of boxing as punching. If it wasn't, referees wouldn't make such an impact, which they do, every fight. It's part of the game. Play with what you have, find out how far you can push your official, and get to work.

 

Rewatched the first Walcott fight last week and what really surprised me was the amount of blatant headbutts. If he and Holyfield ever faced off they would have had to wear gloves on their foreheads.

 

Rocky butted the **** out of Walcott. Some of them blatantly intentional. Really started to swell up Joe's eyes, too. For all we know, that loss of vision from cranial striking might have helped Rocky set up the knockout.

Boxing is a sport, yes, but it has elements of a fight. Fouling is such an integral part of it. Rocky fouls twice as much as Wlad does, and he doesn't commit grey area fouls, like holding; An uptight referee might DQ Rocky before he even warns Wlad. Take Wlad's holding from his toolbox? Fine. Take 20% of Marciano's offense from his. Both guys were different kinds of rough. I have no problem with it. I have no problem with dirty fighters in the ring, either; It's the refs job to contain that. If he wont, thats fine, because I'm not an idiot boy scout and I've learned plenty of shady **** to dish back, just like Jersey Joe, with some shots to the hip, some shouldering, some stepping HARD on Rock's toes(I'm remembering something like a near stomp in the 10th.)

 

It was Marciano who had vision in only one eye before he ko'd Walcot , not the other way around.
Rock set up the ko by relentlessly walking him down and plugging Joe with one of the hardest shots ever thrown.
This is the first time im hearing about Rock being a serial fouler.
Because you cant come to terms with Wlad being the fighter he is only by excessive fouling you want to tarnish Marciano with the same brush?? Pathetic.

 

Marciano followed through with his elbow A LOT. none if this affects the outcome. Wlad wins under almost any modern rule set with nearly any ref

 

The guy said it was Walcot who was blinded , hes a 100% Wlad nuthugger and not objective in any way.

 

Marciano was a far worse fouler with his headbutts, elbows and low blows To disregard this you are either intellectually dishonest or a total ****ing moron.

 

Nobody ever said Rocky wasn't also hurting in there. He got fouled too.

But he also spoon fed his forehead to Walcott quite a bit. It was rough and tumble in there. If a referee is going to allow Rocky to abuse somebody like that, and be called "fair and neutral"(I'm gonna simply call that lax officiating, or letting the fighters fight), he's gonna let Wlad clutch to his hearts' content. No sane referee I've ever met is gonna scold or deduct a guy for holding and let the other guy butt, elbow, low blow, and all that **** in the same vein. It'd be a one way ticket to a protest, and **** like that DOES get overturned in this sport.

Of course, you could also be that guy in Ottke-Reid, who penalized Reid for punching Ottke in the face, but I think we're assuming that guy ISN'T in the ring for this one, and if he was, he'd probably favor Wlad (European).

 

Wladimir has to wear his opponents down or they quit on him because they cant cope for his power to be effective. He wouldn't wear Rock down(Joe Louis nails him right on the chin) his constant moving,hard punching,superior footwork(Wlad has never fought a man who was capable of launching himself from a squat crouch). Rocky is the superior fighter who are you kidding? Size?? He was outweighed by most of his opponents. He fought tougher competition who despite taking a beating never once quit because of it.

 

Rocky didn't abuse anybody unless they did to him first.....He was concerned for the saftey of every fighter he faced and always genuinely wished them the best of luck before a fight.......He didn't train like a Spartan and put in more prep than anybody else just to have the intention of winning by foul............That being said if you lowballed him he'd rightfully get you back and if Wlad wants to try hug him to death Rock will make him pay the price 100% with a barrage of endless power shots the like of which he's never felt.......You have to of experienced the pain of liver shots to know what a game changer they are and all it takes his one.........They will sap his engery and without his power he might as well quit on his stool if he managed escaped a ko in the first few rounds.

 

i have and i know. and i still don't think rocky lands it

 

You troll

 

Ibragimov, Chagaev and Haye were all capable of launching themselves from a crouch. Brewster and even Peter were capable of throwing leaping hooks with plenty of mustard on them.

Rocky's left was surprisingly fast for a man so generally lacking in speed, but it wasn't anything that Wlad hadn't seen before. It was also a very short shot, and those can be difficult to land flush against men substantially taller than yourself.

Whilst there's definitely a mental aspect to Wlad's wearing down tactics, there's a physical aspect as well. And a man of Rocky's size and hittability (relative to Wlad's accuracy I mean) would be shipping major punishment on a consistent basis for many rounds. There's nothing to suggest that he holds up to such punishment without going down at some point. Rocky could be hurt, he could be dropped. On every occasion he was to pull the cat out of the bag, but to say he would do so against a fighter of Wlad's size and skill level is a rather bold gamble.

 

blasphemy!!

 

Bah, you've got no stamina.