Wladimir & Morrison - One In The Same?

I agree with your point about Tommy showing heart against Hipp, but Ruddock was a different story. Razor had only fought once against a journeyman in a near three year period, and was clearly past it. He floored Morrison, then later became the victom of what was a potential early stoppage. In my opinion, a prime Ruddock around 1991, would stop Morrison handely.

 

True, but Ruddock's power was still there at that time, and I was more or less just trying to prove that Morrison handled adversity better, and proved he can overcome it more than Wlad, not to mention getting a draw against Purrity after being knocked down a few times, while Wlad himself couldnt make it the distance against him and lost by knockout.

 

Purity was 8-8 when he fought a 41-2 Morrison who had far more experience. Wlad was 23-0, facing a 23-11 purity. And this was a 12 round fight in which, Wlad was ahead, not a 10 round fight which Morrison barely survived and should have lost the decision.

Apples to oranges I'm afraid.

 

I see your point, I was just stating that when introuble Morrison was able to get through and make till the end, Wlad melted when push came to shove, and couldnt battle through the adversity, something that would become a reoccurring theme for Wlad it seems.

 

Both men failed badly when it came to overcoming adversity against lesser opponents. For Klitschko however, he at least survived three knockdowns to beat Sam Peter who was an undefeated contender and future world champ. Morrison rarely beat a ranked contender, and certainly none who were in their prime. He was KO'd in one round by a 9-1 novice in Michael Bentt. Nothing like this ever happened to Wladimir. The Purity fights were more of a disgrace to Morrison than they were to Klitschko given the perspective stages of careers that everyone was in at the time. Ruddock was shot, and probably should have beaten Morrison. Anyone that Wlad ever lost to, Brewster, Sanders and yes even a later Purity could have beaten a prime Morrison.

 

I dont think Purity would of beat a prime Morrison, he couldnt even beat a couple years past his prime Morrison back in 94, if that fight would of took place in 91 or 92, Morrison would of knocked him out. I do agree that both Brewster and Sanders would beat Morrison, though there's a decent chance he would Brewster who at times under performs and either loses or has close matches against guys he shouldnt, he just barely won against Meehan, was losing by a decent margin until knocking out Krasniqi in the 9th, lost to Eitienne, and Shufford by wide margins as well.

Wlads only fight where he proved his toughness was against a 25 yearold, very green Peter, who smothered his punches when he had Wlad hurt, instead of stepping back and putting the power behind the punches needed to finish his man off. Wlad falls apart 9 times out of 10 when the tables are turned, as Lamon Brewster once said " He just dont have the dog in him", I couldnt agree more.

 

Well, if you're going to use the Foreman fight to try and prove Morrison's toughness, then I might as well tell you that the fight showed Morrison was anything but tuff. He ran for most of that fight and against a very old Foreman. At least Moorer, Holyfield and Stewart went toe to toe and traded shots with the guy right around the same time frame. Morrison didn't, and if he had, would have gotten blasted.

Wlad has only lost three times so far, in 53 fights, and has beaten far more ranked opponents than Morrison has ever shared the same ring with in victory or defeat. He is 11-2 in world title fights, and has at least avenged one defeat, whereas Morrison has never avenged any. Morrison has come up off the canvas to win maybe one or two fights, but so has Wlad, and believe me, a washed up Williams is no prime peter.

Point being, neither man can be credited for having raw toughness, but when push comes to shove, Wlad probably takes it, and needless to say is far more talented and proven against infinately better competition....

 

You make a good points, and I will never argue on who's more accomplished or more talented, my answer would always be Wlad. Wlad has only once came back from a knockdown to go on and knock them out, that was against Panel(spell check), Morrison has came back from being knocked down to go on and knockout both Ruddock and Williams.

Honest question Magoo, have you ever seen a supposed elite Heavyweight, as some say Wlad is, so weak in the chin and toughness department? I cant say I know anyone of hand, do you?

 

Purrity was doing good work on Wlad from the mid-rounds onwards, breaking him down and landing big shots, Purity destroyed Wlad. The only vid I could find is below (which only shows the end):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIXlSfoPzWc&feature=related

 

Have you seen the full fight?

 

Yes I have seen the full fight and Wlad took a beating from the mid rounds onwards. I just can't find the full version.