Wladimir vs Ali

this, it was flash knockdown from ali being a fool of a boy. He was clearly unfazed, I wonder why people make out he was nearly koed.

The bizarre "weights" claim becomes ironic in a thread against more massive, way more weak chinned wladdie, wierd they cant see the irony. Conjjures up an image of wlad serially staggering round and getting iced against lesser boxers than cooper.

 

I was just about to bring up what you said lol Ali did face Frazier at 212 pounds and that was his prime weight, his chin survived the test just like it did against Liston and Chuvalo in the 60's. He also faced Norton in the rematch at 212 pounds. Ali had a good chin in his prime weight

 

You on about the Cooper fight being a flash knockdown?? That was the most hurt Ali was throughout his career, it weren't flash, he was gone

 

Ali wasnt involved in strength training. He didnt touch a single weight.

He was always weak to hooks. It hit him from his blind spot in his hands down stance. The punch you dont see coming hurts you the hardest, and thats how cooper dropped him.

Ali saw shavers and foremans punches coming and managed to slip and roll with a lot of them.

And no, your chin doesnt get better with age, especially after 50+ professional fights taking blows and going through wars with 200+ pound sluggers.

 

Ali illegally received smelling salts from his corner in the cooper fight. While legal in America, still at that time, it was a strict no no in England. He could of been Dq’d had the ref saw it. Also with out it does he come out as sharp to start next round I highly highly doubt it.

 

I wonder if there was another minute left, would he of recovered ? Never seen him that bad

 

Ali had ton of heart and speed so you never know but it’s unlikely. Before he received the smelling salt he actually got up in his corner and tried to walk to middle of ring before his handlers sat him back down. He was out of it. I think anything more than another 20 seconds and Henry who was desperate having already been cut rushes him and finishes him off.

 

I think it's a common mistake to make (and I see it with Ali a lot) to combine all the best qualities of fighters over their career into a fantasy fighter that never actually existed in reality. No wonder he's made out to be unbeatable.

 

he clearly walked to his corner immediately and unaided.

I have no idea how you can write the shyt you do. Are you from Earth 2?

 

Watch it again, he was finished if it was’nt for the bell

 

He did that as well but he did stand up and make a motion toward the ring when Dundee sat him back down.
The larger and more important point I was making was that Ali illegally received smelling salts in his corner, and on video you can clearly see he had a very strong reaction to them. They clearly alerted his senses. Smelling Salts were banned at this time in England. I do hope you are aware of that.
As for Earth 2 your posts often look as if they’re from Pluto. Hate disguised as satire. Lame

 

Dundee had smelling salts ready for every fight.
Funny how you single out this one for a fightin which you want to claim ali was nearly koed, yet walked straight back to his corner unharmed.

walking straight back to his corner unharmed immiediately is a funny definition of being koed.

 

I don’t care if Dundee had smelling salts ready for every fight. They were against the rules in this bout and should not have been administered. Duh. He used them an illegal move. If Ali wasn’t hurt he would not have had to use them. Think.

 

think what? think what you want, you want ali koed so as to belittle a man who was never koed?

cooper wasnt going to ko ali in a month of sundays even. The salts made no difference to the outcome of the fight, it was a washout both times.

Now that you been debunked, its time for YOU to think - why were smelling salts bannedin the uk?
The answer is nothing to do with "illegal advantages"

 

Ali illegally received smelling salts. Are you trying to deny this? It’s on film. Nobody is trying to belittle anyone what are you Ali’s cheerleader. I’m just stating Ali received smelling salts after being knockdown. That’s a Fact. And that was against the rules. Also a fact.