Wladimir vs Ali

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Big Red, Mar 8, 2018.


  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    why would you ask this?

    tell me why you'd ask this WHEN I JUST TOLD U DUNDEE HAD THEM READY FOR ALL HIS FIGHTS.

    Are you some serious returd?

    stop repeating failed arguments.
     
  2. The Long Count

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    Having them ready and using them are two different things. And once again once you lose to facts like our last debate you resort to rubbish.

    Name calling is always the last resort of a failed argument. Good day sir.

    Ali was administered smelling salts. He should not have been given them- it was against the rules.
     
  3. HerolGee

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    Dundee used them all the time, there is no difference between him using them other times and this time other than it suits your agenda to claim cooper was koing ali.

    You simply WANT with all your willpower to claim that the ali who got straight up and walked back to his corner unaided (not staggering koed like wladdie), was actually getting koed. YOUR willpower is not enough, you need reason too.

    Dundee failure to check regs on whether they were legal in the UK is dundees problem. He didnt help ALI at all that night - he ran the risk of DQing ali through his incompetence.
     
  4. The Long Count

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    I don’t care if Dundee used them all the time or not. He felt he had to use them here in this situation. It was against the rules. I don’t know why you continue to argue against facts. Ali’s corner broke the rules. End of story. Good day
     
  5. HerolGee

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    You've just written what I wrote, and then claimed what I wrote was wrong.

    Why so returd?

    Why you running away now? Has a penny dropped in your head..
     
  6. JackSilver

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    Yeah, Ali was on, what the old timers used to say, q**** street after the knockdown and even looking back at it in the black and white film,it looks like he was saved by the bell, the smelling salts and Dundee's delaying tactics before the start of the next round.
     
  7. The Long Count

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    Shameful name calling again. Once again you lost a debate it’s ok life goes on.

    Let me state the FACTS one more time:

    Ali at the end of Round after being knocked down- received smelling salts from Angelo Dundee his trainer.
    Smelling salts were banned in Boxing in England.
    Ali- illegally received them. His corner broke the rules.

    All your childish slurs against me changes none of that and that’s why you resort to them.

    Nobody runs from you- it’s just a waste of time to debate nonsense with someone who can’t handle the FACTS.

    Good day sir
     
  8. HerolGee

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    you once again wrote what I wrote about the salts incident.

    Why did you repeat my point...and then pretend it was yours?

    dont run away again from explaining yourself!The reason I am questioning your acumen is that you keep failing to explain why you are repeating my point back to me. That is pretty dumb, I tihnk you will agree, especially given you've done it again!
     
  9. HerolGee

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    dont keep running away long count. I am sorry i called you a returd, but you shouldt use that an excuse to run in fear from the argument.

    are u ready to reply why smelling salts had been banned in the uk?

    if not, then i'll save u it - they were banned to prevent brain injuries, the ban was NOTHING to do with providing illegal advantages.

    Therefore ali received no illegal advantage, all he got was cornerman incompetence that threatened to disqualify him over an opponent he was clowning, taken his best shot and walked away from it, and stopped seconds later.
     
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  10. HerolGee

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    shyt man truely he ran away again. the penny must have dropped after all that his argument was fail.

    I can understand, I would do the same if mine got exposed so bad.