Wlad is 39 years old. Mayweather is 38 years old. They are roughly 11 months apart in age. We'll see how Mayweather looks if he fights next November. That would be the only valid comparision. Foreman fought one fight at the age of 46 and recieved a bad beating against journeyman Alex Stewart. A gift robbery decision win. Not many would call that great. Lewis was 37 years old when he beat Vitali Klitschko. Needless to say that is not the same age as 39.
Lewis was 37 and looked like **** against vitaly. Floyd just fought a **** smaller fighter who was beaten a few times recently and wasn't even ranked. How would Floyd do against a young bigger undefeated fighter if he fought now?
Floyd fighting someone like Golovkin next year would be the best equivalent of what Wlad just did against Fury. I don't think many would like a 39 year old Floyd's chances against a taller, longer, faster fighter with knockout power.
Wlad looked the exact same last weekend as he did against Pulev. Bouncing up and down looking for one KO shot. He was around the same age then as Floyd was when he dominated Manny. Foreman was great when he beat Moorer at 45 or 46 whatever it was. And why are you quoting me. Dont ever quote me.
Indeed Lewis did look like chit. He was inactive , under prepared and out of shape. He still had the adaptability, heart , courage and the adjustments required to get the win against a fearsome opponent who the majority would claim was a lot better than Tyson Fury.
This fight showed that H2H you need a fighter who's bigger / rangier than him. Lewis without doubt messes him up, no question. But any small HW Vlad can tie up and keep on the outside loses.
And Wlad was still considered great at 38, last year. But at 39, Wlad has now had two poor showings. I didn't see much bouncing last weekend. Foreman was never considered great in his comeback. Moorer was a one punch upset against a fat glass jawed light heavy who many felt was lucky to get the decision against an unhealthy Holyfield. In his next fight, Foreman got outboxed by Shulz. Many here still feel Wlad can be effective agaisnt small fighters, so in that instance Wlad is still great if that is measuring stick. I'll quote you whenever i feel like it, duckvelvet.
Rubbish. Foreman was getting smashed by the likes of Alex Stewart and chasing around a ****py Morrison to a lost decision. Otherwise, his wins were over bums until he found the one beltholder dumb enough to stand right in front of him. He was not taking on the top challengers, running up 18 title defenses. Vitali was definitely slowing down after his revival on the heels of a 4 year break. He was hardly peak. Lewis was 37, not 39, and decided to retire when he saw his skills were so eroded. Where were Ali, Dempsey, Marciano, Louis... when they were 39? Why aren't you so quick to judge their careers on their performances or what can only be supposed to be "cowardly retirements" at that age? Hypocrisy knows know bounds.
don't ever quote me :rofl lmao,,, who do you think you are Joe Stalin or do you think you're in the mafia dino?
Alex Stewart lost large to Foreman and was very , very lucky to have made it out of the second round. Who's to say Stewart wouldn't have given Wlad all sorts of problems? He did a very good job using the ring to evade a great ring cutter in Foreman. When Wlad was at his absolute best , he had trouble figuring out the non skilled Calvin Brock and spent the majority of the first 4 rounds doing nothing but mauling and clinching. You're trying to claim Wlad is gun shy all of a sudden , well he threw nothing against Brock till he knackered him with constant elbows into the back of the neck. Vitali looked unstoppable when he came back and was the massive favourite going into all his fights. Quit re writing history. Those eroded skills were enough to beat Vitali. Wlad didn't look half as shot as Lewis when he lost. They had already established their greatness in legacy fights against genuine ATG opposition. Wlad has had no miles on his clock from bear hugging to death worthless opposition for the past 10 years. Ali was shot to bits when he was pulling out wins against Shavers and Norton. Holmes relied on pure boxing skill when all else went away to box into the mid 90's where he had more success against MaCall than Lennox Lewis had. Wlad is still in superb physical condition. The elite level skills were never there. How many times have you rubbished and mocked Morrison for turning his back against Foreman? Wlad blatantly turned and cowered away countless times against Fury , expecting the ref to protect him like they have been doing for 10 unbearable years. Morrison actually went for it against Foreman and showed more heart in that fight than a career full of Wladimir Klitschko. Hypocrisy my azz.
Good post. Can't say I disagree at all. Ill add though, that Foreman was in hiatus for a decade. Wlad was actively honing his defensive style and not taking any punishment doing it.
Good thing he never fought Povetkin or Pulev, and Wlad ducked them exactly as you betted your account on. Imagine what they would have done to him if he got in the ring with them.