Worst stoppage you've ever seen?

Taylor-Chavez was the correct decision. The referee should never consider how his decision will affect the outcome of a fight, he should never have the time in his mind either, the only thing he should take into consideration is the state of the fighter in front of him. If Steele thought he was not fit to restart the fight, he was 100% correct. The ref is there to protect the boxers and not to give a flying **** about who wins or how long there is to go.

Calzaghe-Manfredo was an awful stoppage because it was too early, Duran-deJesus III was an awful stoppage because it was too late. I thought the stoppage in Margo-Mosley was too late as well.

 

Just like Pac-Marquez I again with you eh? There is probably a 60-40 split in opinion regarding something, and you are absolutely condemning the other side of the argument to hell. Please grow up. You're a great poster in other ways.

 

The time left is irrelevant but I do think that Chavez could well have gotten across that ring and got a left hook off on a defenceless Taylor within 2 seconds.

 

It was a fight I seen on B.A.D ... Yuriorkis Gamboa ... had got knocked down then he knocked the guy down and the ref counted fast as hell the last 4 seconds.

 

Its probably Steeles job to know roughly how much time is left but is he supposed to know whether there is 2 or 3 or 5 seconds left? Because thats the sort of margin for error you are asking for here, otherwise Taylor gets flattened again and maybe seriously hurt.

 

I am certainly "condemning" the other side in this one, because there was only two seconds left, not enough time for Chavez to inflict any life threatening damage on Taylor. Anybody who says otherwise is full of **** - as I rightly pointed out the first time.

 

Taylor-Chavez was a very good stoppage IMO. Taylor didn't respond when asked by Steele if he was o.k, and was holding onto the ropes to keep his balance as well. Taylor was well ahead on the cards, but he played into Chavez's style and allowed himself to get dropped late in the fight. It's as simple as that. People say 'Taylor deserved the win' but I think Chavez deserved the win just as much for coming through such a 'schooling' and still keeping artillery that late in the constant. His persistance paid off.

Worst stoppage I've ever seen? Most late has to be Griffith vs. Paret. Williams vs. Jack is pretty bad too.

Most unjust? Cotto vs. Corley.

 

Like Mosley did on Mayorga. :deal

 

You're a child. You embarrassed yourself last time with your behaviour on my Pac-JMM thread, and haven't learned your lesson yet. Is it even possible anyone with an opinion different to your own isn't a braindead moron??????

Taylor-Chavez was the correct decision. The referee should never consider how his decision will affect the outcome of a fight, he should never have the time in his mind either, the only thing he should take into consideration is the state of the fighter in front of him. If Steele thought he was not fit to restart the fight, he was 100% correct. The ref is there to protect the boxers and not to give a flying **** about who wins or how long there is to go.

Think about why a referee is in the ring, and what your own thought process would be if you were a referee charged with the responsibility of fighters' safety.

 

Mayweather vs Mitchell.

 

I knew this thread was going to end up focusing on Chavez-Taylor...

 

Of course, the referee knew there was two seconds left.

 

Let me clarify my stance for you.

I have no quarrel with Richard Steele, and I have no issue with anybody on ESB who disagrees with me in thinking that the stoppage was a fair one.

However, I think to say 2 seconds was enough time for Chavez to inflict life threatening damage on Taylor are kidding themselves. I will not be convinced of this, under any circumstances. By the time Steele actually allows Taylor back into the action, there would have been less than a second left. There was no danger in Taylor being hurt further. None whatsoever.

I would prefer if you didn't call me a child.

 

I would prefer if you didn't say I was full of ****, thanks.

You have not read my post correctly. No-one is trying to convince you that Chavez could have inflicted more punishment on Taylor. That is not the point at all.

The point is that Steele did not think Taylor was fit to continue. Had he then gone against his assessment of the situation and allowed action to re-start for 2 seconds purely because there was only 2 seconds left, he would have been consciously making a decision that would allow Taylor to win the fight.

That is not the referee's concern Selfkill. He cannot think about time, or about how close one man is to winning, or about how the media will react, or anything else at all. He cannot think about any other factor other than the single question:

"Is this guy fit to re-start? Should I be standing aside for this guy?"

That is all. And the answer in Taylor's case was no.

Case closed.