Would Dubois beat Hrgovic without the headbutts?

This fight was his for the taking. Hrgovic landed some nice right hands, but he looked gassed and ponderous like in the Zhang fight. Dubois outgunned him and Hrgo was ready to go anyway.

I only noticed one or two clash of heads while watching live. Hrgovic also did some rabbit punching.

In any case if you're getting fouled you should signal to the reff if he's not doing anything about it.
Rabbit punching? Tap the back of your head. Headbutt? Tap your forehead. Low blows? Tap your groin etc etc. Hrgovic just stood there like a complete neanderthal.

 

I respect your opinion, but mine is that the head butting didn’t win the fight for ddd.

 

Just 20-30 more, nothing of notice really.
The whole Dubois movement towards his opponents when he goes for the clinch is completely illegal and clearly intentional.

 

Usyk fanboys cheering for Dubois, only because his win to look good, not remembering Dubois past fights and loses.

 

I only recall 3 blatant headbutts if I am honest. There may have been more I wasn't really looking for them. Maybe they caused the cuts, maybe it was all the clean shots to the head he was taking. Would need to see replays of the fight to know for sure.

The ref should have warned Dubois earlier than he did for coming in with his head, I noticed the first one very early on in the fight and by the 3rd one I saw it was clear he should have been warned at that stage, because it was becoming a common thing and if there were more as you say then yeah it should of happened much sooner.

I'm not sure Hrgovic could throw at a lower rate. He isn't a mover or slick defensive fighter than can avoid trading, his style is to press forward and throw right hands and Dubois went right at him from the bell, he had to throw to just keep Dubois from just steam rolling him. So Dubois forced him to fight at this unusually high pace.

 

It's not just about throwing. There is a big difference in throwing jabs and throwing straight Right Hands full force, and trying to force the uppercuts, which was missing all night, as Hrgovic didn't set them up properly.
Dubois has no defense at all, so if Hrgovic actually used his jab properly he would have kept Dubois at bay.
I think Hrgovic though he could get Dubois out of here early, as he was landing his right on will, and that what make him punch himself out early. He expended way too much energy.
Yeah Dubois was forcing the pace, but Hrgovic was throwing way too many punches where it wasn't needed.

As far as the headbutts, at least 20-30 in that i'm certain. When i get to rewatch the fight and get a proper footage i can post either short videos or screenshot if needed, not that it will change anything.

But i lost the count at around 20-30, in that i'm certain. And again headbutt is headbutt, doesn't matter if it's a full force or not. Same for elbow shots, even light elbows/headbutt can cause major damage. That's why this shots are illegal in many many martial arts.
And headbutts in almost all of Martial Arts.

 

There were definitely a fair few nasty head clashes in there which tbf both men did well not to dramatise. It just takes 1 for a cut to appear and for a doc ringside to wave it off, more often than not it's caused because of a headbutt.

 

Just rewatched:
This is what i come with:
The time is round time, and it's a second, two or three earlier than the actual headbutts happen:

Round 1:
Headbutt 1 = 1:51 minutes left

Round 2:
Headbutt 2 = 2:15 minutes left
Headbutt 3 = 0:34 seconds left
Headbutt 4 = 0:10 seconds left

Round 3:
Headbutt 5 - 1:06
Headbutt 6 - 1:03 - very blatant one straight on Hrgovic chin

Round 4:
Headbutt 7 - 2:24
Headbutt 8 - 1:52
Headbutt 9 - 1:30 - huge one
Headbutt 10 - 0:59 big swing and miss from Dubois and intentional movement with his head towards Hrgovic. Clearly intentional to try to catch Hrgovic with his head.
Headbutt 11 - 0:03-0:04 or so(last few seconds, no clock on show)very blatant and huge one. Dubois goes for clinching with his head first and hit Hrgovic chin big time.

Round 5:
1:39 - not a headbutt, but Dubois going in with his head down and collide with the top of his head on Hrgovic face.

Headbutt 12 - 1:30 - another huge one. Hrgovic landed a huge Right Hand, and Dubois charged to clinch and headbutting Hrgovic clearly on the nose. He is swinging with his head 100% deliberately towards Hrgovic face.

And when the corrupt referee separate them, he instead decide to warn Hrgovic for Rabbit punch, and say nothing to Dubois for the obvious headbutt

Headbutt 13 - 1:07 - that's one is easy to miss, but it's a clear on a slow motion
Headbutt 14 - 0:34 - another clinch, another headbut from Dubois. That was not hard at all, but still he hit Hrgovic on the chin with his head. His head is constantly moving and swinging towards Hrgovic face in the clinch. It's obvious what he is doing.
There was a low blow in that clinch as well from Dubois, which referee warned him lightly and tell him to keep the shots up
Headbutt 14 - 0:03-0:04 seconds left - another clinch initiated by Dubois after Hrgovic finds him with the right hand, and Dubois charged and swing his head right into Hrgovic face.


Round 6:
Headbutt 15 - 2:05 - another clinch, another headbut by Dubois
Headbutt 16 - 1:17 - another clinch, another one. Dubois is not even trying to hide the headbuts. He is going straight with his head towards Hrgovic face.
Headbutt 17 - 0:58 - another big one, Dubois is lunching from down to up with his head in the clinch almost constantly. Either that or swinging from one side to another with his head.
Headbutt 18 - 0:40, clinch, and Dubois again swinging from down to up with his top of the head
Headbutt19 - 0:23 - one of the same. Dubois ducking and going up with his head towards Hrgovic face

Round 7:

2:41 - Huge low blow by Dubois - referee ignored it obviously
2:01 - Another big low blow by Dubois - referee again says nothing
Headbutt 20 - 1:16 - a light one, but still
0:42 - Another low blow
Headbutt 21 - 0:34
Headbutt 22 - 0:24 - big one, straight up charging with his head that landed in Hrgovic face.

0:22 - Low blow in the same clinch he previously landed the Headbutt
Headbutt 23 - 0:14 seconds left, Dubois landed huge Right hand, and goes on the inside and the clinch, and this was more of a push/swing with his head, but he make it sure to move it towards the left and right side of Hrgovic face.
He finally get a proper warning for the Headbutt, as ref separate them and warned Dubois for swinging with his head.
He also landed a low blow in that exchange as well

Round 8:
Headbutt 24 - 2:51 - Dubois is just charging with his head first in this clinches. He is tucking his chin and just charging with his head and swing it constantly.

2:36 - another low blow, not that blatant this time
Headbutt 25 and 26 - 2:26 - Dubois is going insane throwing punches, and make sure he also hit Hrgovic with his head as well. And he is constantly putting his head into Hrgovic face and pushing it with his head.

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Done it a bit in a hurry, so there maybe some mistakes, but it's obvious what happen.

There was a couple of low blows that was obvious, and some on the waistband, but Hrgovic wears his short very low, as you can see where his navel is clearly. Anything below is low blow.

But outside of the headbutts, he was always pushing with his head and mostly top of his head. Also ducking low and going up charging with the top of his head. And against constantly pushing and rubbing with his head on Hrgovic face, which is illegal.

This was as blatant as it can get, and i'm disgusted. As i said previously i liked Dubois very much, but he has become one of the dirtiest cheaters since moved to don Charles.

That was a DQ all over the place.

As i said i'm taking a rest from Boxing and the Forum. Maybe will comeback later this year or next. Need a rest, as i'm totally disgusted with what happen, and how the blatant corrupt UK judge just allow obvious cheating like this.

 

You're one of Usyks biggest fans.

You talk about him constantly and you always said you wanted him to prove himself at HW, well now he's beaten 3 of the top 5 in the division.

 

Dubois’ issue with Usyk was fatigue I think. I don’t think he was actually hurt so much as absolutely exhausted. Even in the Hrgovic fight I thought he looked like he was gonna be gassed by the 3rd round, but he did well and seemed to even loosen up as the fight went on

 

I was before he said and done some stupid **** outside of the ring. IF you want to know a man, you have to see how he behaves in a difficult situations, well, he showed me his true colors. so I can't support him anymore.

I was saying he would beat AJ and stop Fury. He dominated AJ, when AJ was "too big, too strong"

There is no way Dubois is top 5. Not after Lerena fight, when everyone helped him, finishing round earlier and later giving him time after the bell rang.

 

What did he do that made you stop liking him? He seems like a fine guy outside of boxing.