Would Ken Buchanan Beat The Pacman??

I get where people are coming from regarding Pacquaio’s resume against Buchanan’s.
That doesn’t say though that Buchanan wasn’t a top class operator.
If you look at the fight in isolation at the weight then in my opinion it’s pretty close.
I think Buchanan’s style his movement and ability to throw multiple jabs would cause problems for Manny who doesn’t apply the consistent and relentless pressure that Duran did.
It all depends if Manny could land enough to slow Buchanan who was teak tough down.
I think I’d just go with Manny being able to land just enough significant power shots and combinations to win the decision but I think it’s close.

 

Ken Buchanan a chump?
Just delete your account fella.

 

Well, Ali himself was the ultimate, elite-class outboxer and those he faced, who might have been considered outboxers themselves, were taken way out of their comfort zone by Ali's superiority in this mode. Ali forced them to fight his fight. See Ellis and Terrell match-ups for reference. You could probably throw Joe Bugner into the mix, as well.

Mayweather too, was "outboxer", and up there with the best of them, so he's going to own this space in a contest with any other practitioners of this style, as well. His beating of Judah is one example, but you could add Corley, as well.

In any event, I'd say the respective styles of Jimmy Young and Zab Judah are more comparable to Buchanan's, than Sasakul's and Bradley's, the latter of whom was more boxer-puncher. Also, if memory serves, Sasakul was beating Pacquaio handily until he went static against the ropes and almost waited for the straight left to hit him flush.

Irrespective of the above, the point is that it is reasonable to suspect that Pacquiao would find Buchanan's style challenging.

That depends on what you and I respectively mean by "wide" and how much of that gap one wants to narrow-down by way of comapring ledgers and trinkets.

For me, it means Duran was a complete fighter and considered as such, relatively early in his career. Pacquiao, on the other hand, was regarded as a one-handed (and by some, a one-dimensional) fighter, up to the point he beat Morales in their rematch.

As such, I would also say that Duran had considerably more variety to his game than Pacquiao, both offensively and defensively. Whereas, Pacquiao's tactics remained more or less rooted in high-speed ambush-style assaults, using a powerful straight-left and a useful right-hook. These were immensely effective against the right kind of opponent, but it was also an approach with which Pacquiao could be defensively reckless.

Duran's zenith came against a prime ATG in Ray Leonard.
If I try to imagine what SRL would have done to Pacquiao, I actually think it would have at least curtailed, if not have ended his career there and then. I don't think Pacquiao beating burnouts like OdlH, Hatton and Mosley puts him anywhere near that kind of sphere, in the company of Duran and Leonard. Neither does his beatdown of Cotto.

Of course, Pacquiao's achievements are not to be dismissed nor are they to be entirely divorced from a matter of a fantasy head-to-head contest. After all, the man is a living legend - but an accumulation of what's on paper carries no real weight in this debate. Only demonstrable capabilities provide the required insight.

 

Styles make fights and people keep talking about Duran as some sort of measuring stick here? why?... Duran is the absolute worst style matchup imaginable for a guy like Pac.. Pac would find himself off balance and Duran would counter and knock him out in under 10. Ken had a very good jab and was a durable guy who had the style to go with Duran, best he could ... Now Ken Pac fight is close no doubt ... 5 pages and no one has talked about Pacs hand speed which is going to land a lot vs the great jab of Ken that would throw Pacs timing off to come in and land the straight left.. .its a 50 50 fight for me .. SD Ken

 

No,even with out roids manny wins

 

Sean Penn from Colors? (1988)

 

So now we are comparing Buchanan with the great Marquez seriously?? Why is this even talked about.Buchanan was not a great Boxer,Pacquaio,Marquez & Duran were all P4P Greats.Pacquaio never ducked anyone & is only boxer to win title belts in 7 & 8 different weight divisions.Yes i do rank Pacquaio up there with Duran as I do Marquez as well.I am 54 years & watched all those great fighters from the 1970's & 80's.Arguello was my Idol how ever i am not so stuck in the pass as not to recognize fighters after them as also great fighters if deserved.Pacquaio destroyed a lot of boxers bigger & better than Buchanan.I have watched the sport for 50 years & how often do i hear this name Buchanan only on this sight.

 

Pacquaio tested positive for steroids? was this recent ?I looked online after i saw this post but couldn't find it.Could you point me where to go so i can see this thanks.I thought it would be big news.

 

only 1 other fight & doesn't interest me because he isn't important.His record isn't all that impressive either.Maybe if he had fought another big name besides Duran i would have watched more of his fight .The reason he never fought bigger names back then is because he wasn't worthy of it.He isn't worthy of even talking about on this sight.

 

I agree I think Marquez & Pacquaio deserve to be right up there with Duran & with my Idol Arguello as well.

 

Easy fight for Buchanin.
Pac is a Bum.

 

I don't care how old you claim to be, how long you claim to have been watching boxing or what fights you have or have not watched. You either have a problem with separating skills, tactics and styles from numbers on a ledger or simply do not know how to extrapolate from what you have watched to make meaningful head-to-head comparisons.

 

Ive seen Buchanan vs:

Cassidy 1
Tiger 1
Paiva
Lundgren
Rocca
McCormack
Cullen
Tavarez 1
Angel Robinson Garcia
Narvaez
Velazquez
Fernandez
Hudson
Laguna 1
Paduano
Navarro
Hernandez
Laguna 2
Duran
Ortiz
Lee
Watt
Otero 1
Malave
Otero 2
Puddu
Tavarez 3
Ishimatsu
Usai
Benitez
Early
Williams

I think its safe to say Ive seen Buchanan from his earliest development to the end of his career and all of his major fights barring his Scottish title win against McMillan and his final EBU loss against Nash. Im mystified as to how anyone could think a straight up and down 1-2 vanilla punching European style fighter is going to beat Pacqiao.

 

for real. put respect on Buchanan, all of his contemporaries did and for good reason

 

I have trouble seeing Pac capitalize on any sort of ground he gains on Duran. Duran could seriously f***ing stifle a fighters momentum. Ken suffers from general weaknesses that many other European fighters do. But in spite of that, he hung with the best of a very, very solid era. I agree it is 50/50 for the most part, Pac is certainly a generational talent, but Ken was a standout in a stacked era.