Would smokin joe have beaten wlad and vitali

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  1. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes frazier would beat both the brothers and frazier really was past his prime by the manila fight
     
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  2. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    would it be as usufull nowadays because of the holding tho??
     
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  3. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fighters dod and weave only when they're not good enough to fight on the outside or can't fight on the outside. It's not a plus! Vitali can fight on the outside or inside.
     
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  4. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ino what your saying..but surely the argument of fraizers bobing and weaving wouldnt be a strong one due to both the brothers being to big and strong so they would tie him up alot..
     
    itsa huge bitch, Nov 17, 2011
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  5. beat down

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    Ali tried fraizer up alot but it didn't stop him
     
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  6. SweetScience

    SweetScience Accuracy is the key! Full Member

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    No
     
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  7. beat down

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    tied* typo
     
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  8. Smokin' Joe

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    I think he'd struggle with Vitali. 50-50 fight maybe. He'd struggle with the jab and range, and vitali is so physically strong too, it'd be hard for him to be effective inside. Advantage Vitali probably. Wlad he'd knock out in 5 or 6 rounds.
     
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  9. AnotherFan

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    Jack trying to provoke Klitschko fans as usual :lol:

    Have fun :good
     
    AnotherFan, Nov 17, 2011
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    no
     
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  11. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well its really a joke to say a 5'10" 205lb guy who couldn't even press 200lbs over his head and was crushed by a man 30lbs smaller than both Klitschkos would Ko them..
     
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    Here we go again. Another small heavyweight that would hypothetically beat both Klitschko's because he imposed his will on other small heavyweights.

    Oh yeah; He also bobbed and weaved! LOL
     
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  13. Nosbor

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    I remember that. Frazier failed at like 170. Either Klitschko could probably press close to that with one arm via a dumbell and a little leg drive.
     
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  14. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    exactly man..foreman knocked him around like a little boy..i really cant see him beating either brother and anyone who says otherwise is letting love of the past cloud their judgement
     
    itsa huge bitch, Nov 17, 2011
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  15. Bubby

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    In an interview Frazier's own trainer said Foreman beat Joe because he was just too big for him and the Klitschkos make Foreman look like Manny Pacquiao..
     
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