Wow...Ward is now blatantly ducking Bute

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by WildStyle, Dec 19, 2011.


  1. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh, and stop with the opinions and state facts to back up that THE EPICENTER of boxing generates less boxing revenue than Montreal!! :patsch
     
  2. Exposed

    Exposed *** East Side VIP **** Full Member

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    You don't even know what you're talking about. Just another Canadian that can't even understand simple economics and embellishes in one overhyped fighter after another. First Pascal, then Lemieux, and now Bute. All hometown fighters destined to lose at the world stage level.
     
  3. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    I said with 2 world class fighters, considering they each get anywhere between 8 to 20K at the gate (15-20K for Bute), Montreal / QC was a great shout for revenue / per i.e. revenues generated averaged for all world class fights throughout the year (which for Montreal isn't an insane amount), even compared to LV.

    "Oh so you're thinking just because (...) :| "

    GTFOH. :lol:
     
  4. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    If you put Bute, Pascal and Lemieux all in one category, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. :lol:
     
  5. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    More of your Canuck opinion which means nothing. Where are the revenue numbers that show any comparison between the two?
     
  6. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This has devolved into idiocy. You can't believe ANY of what you're saying. Montreal is a cute city, but it's not even close to being a boxing mecca, it just isn't. You're not the one who started this idiotic argument, but your dumb ass jumped in feet first.

    Just this year between Pacquiao/Marquez and Mayweather/Ortiz, boxing has generated HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS in revenue for the city of LV. This is why this argument makes zero sense.
     
  7. Exposed

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    No, your ramblings about Montreal vs Las Vegas economics clearly shows YOU don't know what you're talking about. :lol: Montreal doesn't hold a candle to Las Vegas, Atlantic City, or even Madison Square Garden in NYC in terms of boxing revenue.

    BTW, Pascal would beat Bute rather easily. Bute hasn't fought ANYBODY on the world stage, unlike Pascal. Your historic dickriding of David Leimieux and your embarrassing ducking of ESB for months after his loss to Marco Antonio Rubio shows you don't know **** about boxing--you're just a groupie of your hometown fighter.
     
  8. Whipdatass

    Whipdatass Boxing Junkie banned

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    Bute is not dominate enough for anyone to say Ward is ducking him. Are you clowns for real? He just fought in the super 6 for Christs sake. You Bute fans want Bute to get a big fight so bad that you'll say any ****ing thing just to get a response. Everyone gets accused of ducking somebody nowadays, ****!
     
  9. laffie

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    Are you talking about TV money or gate money? The hundred of millions come from HBO, not from Vegas. They could have presented these fights anywhere, the result would have been the same. You don't seem to understand yourself the economics of boxing. As for the ambiance, Montreal is far better than Vegas. Unless you don't believe HBO and Showtime's executives.

    By the way, where were you before September 2011? You are another new fan popping out and following a winner, right? Never heard of you before the super 6 finale but now Ward has won, you are on every thread. Calm down a bit. You had arguments with a lot of fighters today. Keep some for tomorrow.
     
  10. drozzy

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    Again you're making up **** I didn't even say. Boxing mecca?!?

    I said it generated great revenues based on the fact there are only 2 top 10 ranked, world class fighters operating out of there. Anything else you say is an extrapolation of what I said Montreal / QC was like in terms of revenues.

    If you consider flat out all fights around the year and don't pro rate anything...

    Las Vegas >>>> QC >>>> Oakland

    :lol:

    You chose to leave out the 'per fighter' aspect of my comparison, so you're pretty much the one rambling about something I didn't say. :lol:

    Great, so the only criteria you use for H2H matchups is W's & L's. Pascal "would beat Bute easily" shows you don't know **** bout baxing. :smoke

    Embarrassing ducking? You also don't know **** bout my life, you misinformed POS. I probably said it in 2 different posts so far, and it's been on my board for 4 months now.

    Groupie? Based on what? What a **** poster you are. :blood
     
  11. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Another new poster who jumped on Ward's bandwagon lately. There was a life before super 6. And they were not the 6 best fighters of the division.
     
  12. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Now that's pretty stupid to say. You exposed yourself. Congratulations.
     
  13. florin3k3

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    fair enough, but don't say that he doesn't deserve a shot yet or BS like that. (what ward declared)
    saying he doesn't deserve a shot is contradictory:
    1. he isn't good enough for you in which case you would WANT the fight (easy money, belt)
    2. he poses real danger to you in which case he DOES deserve a shot

    that's what i don't get. if he said "let me see my options and besides, i'm injured" i would have nothing against that. or "i want a tune up, no real pressure fight before bute" so he can "relax/rest" a bit i would totally agree.

    that's just the way i see it. would have loved a ward-bute superfight:bbb but froch is almost just as good a fight. will probably be a lot more entertaining and less of a chess match as it would probably be against ward. :good
     
  14. florin3k3

    florin3k3 Member Full Member

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    again, i'm not saying ward should do anything. but don't say bute doesnt deserve the fight. that is all. doesn't make sense as i have stated previously
     
  15. Exposed

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    Per fighter? Do you even know what that means? Ok, let's try this...prove to me Bute (against any opponent) generates more revenue in Montreal than Miguel Cotto (against any opponent) in Madison Square Garden. The numbers alone for Cotto vs Margarito against Bute vs Johnson will show just how stupid you are. :lol:

    Yeah, I said Pascal can beat Bute easily. He has shown he has what it takes. Not only that, but against world class opponents, even in defeat. What was Bute's best win? Glen Johnson? :lol: A revenge win against Andrade in which he was basically knocked out in the last round of the first fight? :lol: