wtf ? Froch's retiring

Yes, I can see Cotto beating Marg at 150 without handwraps.

 

Depends on the Morales. Thing is Morales was shot Before Pac 2, and he wasn't close to that weight so no. If he sustained that level than yes I could see him being a wrapless Marg that was brutally beat. Barrera nah, I think he's extremely overrated.

 

No they didn't Ward has mentioned Golovkin's name but no offer has ever been made and Ward was the one who said he wasn't ready to fight at the end of 2013.

 

false, GGG said it several times. I remember watching several youtube videos where him and his team said they werent ready from around oct-dec of 2013, I can bring them up if you like.

 

Frochs team went to HBO for a Froch-GGG PPV fight in America but HBO said the fight wasn't PPV material. It isn't any different than GGGs team saying fights aren't big enough or possible fights aren't PPV worthy when considering opposition. Everything has to do with risk/reward. Froch wants a huge PPV fight here in America if he comes back and GGG isn't a PPV fighter. It's no different than GGGs team saying he wouldn't fight Ward because he isn't PPV all while fighting fighters like Willie Monroe.....
Froch has mentioned fighting GGG in the UK would be pointless because he could make more money fighting Brook and Groves. Boxing is a business and it's all about risk/reward.

 

coming from you that would be a huge insult. I mean seriously how can anyone be higher than you on the re**** scale. Look at the title of a thread you created.
Who is the most less cleverest boxer ever (Multi-page thread 1 2 3)

most less cleverest boxer , do you mean least cleverest boxer?

That's just one ridiculous thread, there are some posts that are far worse, I actually remember calling you re****ed, and the worst poster on your topics several times now .

Oh and for the record Froch"s retiring, doesn't mean froch is retiring atsch.

 

So what potential fight does Froch have that's bigger than GGG? Give me 3 possible names.

And yes captain obvious, but at this point GGG is clearly the highest payday for him in my opinion. I could be wrong, feel free to give me some names.

 

Groves,Degale,And Kessler( who said he would return for a Froch fight). I am unsure how a Froch-Ward fight would sell to the UK audience but the whole revenge tag might make it comparable to a Froch-GGG fight in numbers. Froch is a huge draw in the UK he could make big pay days there BUT he wants a huge fight in America against someone who can make him a lot of money but there isn't anybody. Chavez could have provided this payday but he blew it. I don't think GGG-Murray did well enough in the UK. GGG isn't even a PPV fighter here in America. If GGG unifies 160 and defeats a Cotto or Canelo it could propel him to a PPV fighter and make the Froch-GGG fight huge but it's being held off and Froch will be done by then. Right now the reward against GGG is too small. GGG isn't a big enough draw in America at this moment. He is gaining momentum though.

Froch doesn't have a huge PPV fight in America that could do as well or better than his Groves fight in the UK. There isn't a fighter that can provide it and that's why he's not really interested.

 

wtf? groves? are you serious, no way will he get more viewers than ggg at this point. groves was booed severely, and the uk crowd see him as a fraud at this point. also no one cares about groves in the US, he wouldnt sell PPV for squat, GGG on the other hand would get loads of buys. Degale is not even close to a big enough name to be on PPV, and I'm a huge fan of his. He might sell more tickets in the UK but no way will he get more buys for PPV against Degale than GGG. Kessler no way either, what kind of numbers did Kessler do in his last fight? Why would a retired Kessler sell more ppvs than GGG, or be a bigger payday? GGG does far better numbers than Ward at this point. YOu say GGG Murray didnt do good numbers but GGG fights do way more than Groves, Degale, and if Kessler came out of retirement.

GGG is the clear cut winner for PPV sales, you can make an argument for maybe Ward and Degale outselling him in the UK, but viewership and ppv buys no way.

 

I was referring to Froch against those fighters in the UK where Froch is a draw and can do huge numbers. All of those fights in the UK would do more than a Froch-GGG fight in America. GGG isn't a PPV fighter.GGG has never been a ppv fighter so calling him the clear cut winner in PPv sale makes zero sense as he has never brought in any PPv sales.

Froch is a proven draw in the UK and would make huge money fighting any of the fighters I listed there.

The Kessler fight could happen also in Denmark and still be huge people idolize him over there.

 

Yes and neither are any of the names you provided, but GGG does far better numbers than all of them. A lot of Brits actually know boxing, and I'm sure there would be a huge turn out for GGG/Froch, I find it hard to believe Degale or Ward would do anymore. The brits that dont know boxing who dont know GGG dont know Degale either. Let's be honest. The Froch/GGG fight would get tremendous hype over there, I doubt it'll do Froch/Groves numbers, but I'm positive that it would do extremely well. You mentioned boxing is about risk/reward. Well Froch has a 0.00001% against Ward, and he wouldnt make anymore against Ward than GGG, according to the numbers less. Froch has a way better chance against Ward, and has a better payday so the risk/reward for GGG has to be better. The only reason he'd actually take Ward over GGG is becuase of the possible damage he might take against GGG.

 

I'm pretty sure the Brits know the first gold medalist to win a title over GGG.Brits have a lot of pride even some domestic fights do really well over there and a Degale-Froch fight would be huge over there. Froch has stated he could make more in the UK against Groves and Degale than against GGG. Froch-Kessler would be huge in and a possible sellout in Denmark and do good in the UK.

I could see Froch-Ward because of the revenge tag being comparable to Froch-GGG in the UK but that's about it. GGG isn't a big draw in the UK and Froch has stated if he fought GGG it would have to be PPV in the states because that's what would get him up for the fight. But GGG isn't PPV in the states and HBO has already turned down a GGG-Froch PPV before that Frochs team was seeking out.

GGG just isn't a PPV headliner at this time and hasn't fought in a PPV fight for us to say he would do well on PPV.

GGG does better numbers in America but those fights in the UK or Kessler in Denmark would do better than a GGG-Froch fight in America and a GGG-Froch fight in the UK.

 

Dude I highly doubt brits remember a gold medalist if they don't watch boxing at all. Do Americansknow who Ward is outside of real boxing fans? Nope, and he was p4p #2. Just because Froch stated he could amke more doesn't mean it's true, it's an excuse for a cop out. Seriously there's no way he'd make more against Groves though, and I highly dobut he'd make more for Degale. I can guarantee real brit boxing fans rather see GGG/FRoch than degale/Froch. The only reason Froch/Groves sold so much the second fight was becuase of the controversial first fight, and the trash talking due to it. The Degale/Froch fight won't have 1/10 this hype, and on paper Degale already lost to Groves. Groves was undefeated in the 1st, and many believed he was robbed too.

How do you know GGG isn't a huge draw in the UK? He hasn't fought anyone popular. Groves did like 2k attendance right after the fight against Froch, I guess according to your theory he isn't popular at all anymore . Neither Froch or GGG are PPV in the states, but if Froch were to choose a PPV opponent GGG would clearly do teh most.

I mean you just can't tell me Brit fans would watch a Degale fight against Froch but not a GGG fight against Froch. The main drawn is Froch. The total numbers of GGG/Froch would be far higher in the US as well, if you add up total viewers in the US/UK I can guarantee that the GGG fight would do more.