wtf ? Froch's retiring

I know GGG isn't a huge draw because the GGG-MM fight didn't do well. If GGG was a huge draw in the UK it would of been a huge draw but it wasn't. If GGG was a huge draw in the UK he would be in high demand over there but he isn't. Why are you double talking? You mention how Froch and GGG aren't PPV in the states but then say if Froch were to choose a PPV opponent in America it would be GGG... No if a non PPV fighter chooses another non PPV fighter it wouldn't be a PPV fight plain and simple. Hence why HBO turned down the fight when Frochs team went to see if a Froch-GGG PPV fight would happen.

What's really funny is GGG's team ruling out opponents for not being PPV when he isn't either.

Brits show a lot of support for their fighters and that's why Degale-Froch would be a big fight. You mention that not a lot of them know who GGG is but then go on to say they don't know who Degale is all because Ward hasn't sold well. Ward didn't sell well because of his boring fighting style. Froch-Degale would be huge over there.

 

How do you know he isn't a big draw against a decently popular name? Murray isn't popular at all. You seem to avoid the fact that I pointed out Groves did 1-2k attendance after Froch. I guess popularity means squat right? Yet you say he will get more views/attendance than GGG. Let's be honest Froch/Groves 1 did 20k, the only reason the 2nd fight did that well is because of what happened. No way Degale/Froch does anything close to that. Groves is also a pretty skilled trash talker, I've seen Degale/Groves trash talk and even though I despise Groves, Groves clearly won the trash talk, and made Degale look dumb.
Neither are PPV fighters, because neither have actually had PPVs in the states, but if they were to start a PPV fight, this definitely would be a great choice. No fighters 160-168 are PPV fighters, but the top 2 choice would be GGG, and Froch. Btw adding why after hence isn't the right way to use the word. Sorry, but it just annoys me when people use why after hence.

Oh you also forgot to mention that GGG/Murray wasn't even in the UK. GGG fights an unpopular UK fighters outside of the UK and it doesn't do well, big whoop, it doesn't say anytthing.

 

Btw I checked your posts to see if I was arguing with someone neutral or a fan. And I found this and several other posts which tells me you're clearly a fan.
"Keep calling Froch a coward when he is 1 of the only fighters in the sport willing to fight anyone. He may be limited but he wants greatness and I applaud his bravery!

http://www1.skysports.com/boxing/new...ys-eddie-hearn"

I dont know how you go from praising him this highly to saying, boxing is about risk/reward lol.

 

Froch is a PPV hit in the UK. The U.S. isn't the only country that matters in boxing.

Once again GGG is not a huge draw in the UK because if he was he would be in high demand but he isn't.

Froch-Groves did so well because it was a domestic battle with Froch being the draw. Just like Froch-Degale would be huge because both fighters are from the UK and Degale does have a lot of support over there and it would pique interest.

Frochs team went to HBO to make a Froch-GGG PPV fight already and they said IT WASN'T PPV MATERIAL. They can't make a PPV fight in America if a fighters own network says it's not PPV.

 

See here is where you're wrong. The reason why Froch-Degale would do well is 99% because of Froch, not because of Degale or because it's a domestic fight. Simply put degale isn't a huge draw. When has Degale drawn incredible numbers as a headliner? GGG/Froch would most likely do much better in total numbers than GGG/Degale. You say GGG isn't a huge draw again, but he's never had a chance to prove it. Are Degale or Ward huge draws in the UK? You're clearly exaggerating when you say Degale has a lot of support there. You also forget to mention the reason why Froch/Groves did well was because of the intense trash talking, that's what really built the hype.

Btw show me a source where HBO said Froch/GGG wasn't PPV material. Don't show me something where Froch says GGG isn't PPV, show me a statement by HBO or the GGG team.

 

OH one more thing to add, you can't tell me any Degale fan which isn't huge in numbers and nothing compared to GGG fans doesn't know who Froch/GGG are, and won't watch GGG/Froch. A lot of GGG fans on the other hand have no clue who Froch and definitely dont know who Degale is. GGG brings way more numbers from a completely different source than Degale can even imagine of doing.

 

What your asking when has Degale had big numbers as a headliner but then come back at me with GGG just hasn't had a chance to prove he can ? I don't even need to look up your history you have always sh*t on British fighters. I never said GGG doesn't pull in any numbers I said he wasn't PPV there's a BIG difference. Which he isn't because he hasn't fought in a PPV fight. You also believe Froch isn't PPV because he isn't American PPV wow your not bias at all.

Froch has fought a whose who of boxers at 168 and has mostly come in as the under dog and over come what is seemingly better boxers because of his own limited talent. Yes he strives to be great but would also like to be paid for it. If he wants a huge American PPV fight it has to come with high reward in order to even happen. It's no different than Mayweather saying his fights have to be huge reward in order to deal with the risk but you'll support him and talk about how brave he is get a grip.

 

What are you going on about? Froch isn't PPV in the states because he's never actually fought there on PPV. I'm saying he's very capable of fighting on PPV and so is GGG. You're a Froch fan boy, and you never gave me that source that said that HBO stated GGG isnt PPV. Look Froch is incredibly old, at this point I could care less if he retires. But don't get it twisted that there are better options for him money wise. You bring up Floyd, but has Floyd ever turned down a draw as big as GGG, when they're a weight class below? I think you're the one needing to get a grip. People bring up williams and margarito lmao, first they were bigger than Floyd unlike GGG/Froch, and they clearly didnt have close to the hype that GGG has had. None of them were ranked on p4p lists either while GGG is. GGG is ranked in the top 5 p4p on ring. He's undefeated, and gets the most views for HBO. Marg and Williams aren't even comparable.

 

Froch is a scared phony. Why not fight Ward? Haha so scared.

'Only in Nottingham or I'm not fighting you ward cause I'm so scared'

 

The reason Froch-Groves was successful is because the Brits are the most gullible fan base there is. They bought Haye vs Harrison on PPV for christ sakes :roflatsch

I like Froch but American fans aren't going to buy him on PPV. We won't buy Ward on PPV either.

 

Froch is PPV in the UK it's called Sky box you fool. It's a UK PPV system like I said you don't have to be PPV in the states to be PPV. You mentioned Froch wasn't PPV which isn't true the world is bigger than America.
If GGG was PPV he would of have had fights on PPV. Even Loeffler said Froch-GGG would have to be in the UK on Sky box but HBO in America. Which is entirely the opposite of Froch wanting an American PPV in Las Vegas.
As for Floyd he has had a questionable career of when he picks his opponents and at what time. He also retired at a time when he had options to fight Margarito and Paul Williams who both would of been stylistically difficult for him. Both of them were also considered avoided like GGG also.
Go look in up yourself I'm not playing fetch for you. If you don't know the previous issues of making the fight stop debating on the issues.

 

It had a lot to do with Groves trash talking too. The dude might not be able to fight but he sure does have a mouth, he schooled both Degale and froch easily in that department.

 

Well a fight usually goes to a purse bid but Ward already agreed to fight on BET in Oakland before negotiations were over and his sanctioning body backed him. I am also a Ward fan.

 

Not sure about you but I am not buying a PPV because one of the guys can talk.

 

Dude stop going full re****. I clearly stated that Froch isn't PPV in the "states". Please learn to comprehend "fool".
Like I thought still no link, just more talk from you. Bring up a source or stfu.
Jesus christ, people on this site can't stand losing an argument, now you're going on about floyd, because you know you've lost the battle, and clinging on stupid **** like "OMG YOU SAID FROCH WASNT PPV, even though I know you mean PPV in the states, SKY PPV IS ALSO PPV YOU KNOW."
Yes, Floyd might have a questionable career, but did he ever dodge an undefeated boxer after saying they'd fight him who has the most views on HBO, that's a weight class below him? Nope.
The sore loser and fanboy in you is way too strong. The fact that you wont even bring up a source I've asked for several times confirms that you know you've lost this argument, and you go off opinions, while I go off facts. I know you're never going to stfu, so welcome to being the second person on my ignore list.