Your Flyweight Top 5 Ranking

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Nonito Smoak, Oct 15, 2012.


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  1. haworths623

    haworths623 Guest

    Bit high for Concepion (in my opinion) and Wonjongkam schooled Sosa about a year ago.
     
    haworths623, Oct 17, 2012
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  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Yes, I must say one of my bad recent predictions was "Sosa SD Wonjongkam." Add it to the very long list of quality victories Pong has.

    I do think that Concepcion and Sosa deserve top 10 no question, only behind the same 6 guys generally accepted at the top, as well as Melindo.
     
    Nonito Smoak, Oct 17, 2012
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  3. jrzbox

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    The problem is we haven't seen much from wonjongkam
     
    jrzbox, Oct 17, 2012
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  4. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Once Pong rematches and beats Jaro, then he can be number 1 again, but as of now he's just fighting guys who are fighting in their debut fight and guys with losing records.
     
    DirtyDan, Oct 17, 2012
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  5. EJDiaZ

    EJDiaZ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1.Brian Viloria
    2.Tyson Marquez
    3.Moruti Mthalane
     
    EJDiaZ, Oct 18, 2012
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  6. paypayvay

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    lol at people not having igarashi in the top 5 :) are you guys serious ? he's the " champion " , the others are contenders .

    1-Toshiyuki Igarashi
    2- brian viloria
    3- hernan marquez
    4-Moruti Mthalane
    5-Sonny Boy Jaro
     
    paypayvay, Oct 22, 2012
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  7. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Champion (Lineal/Ring): Igarashi

    1. Viloria
    2. Marquez
    3. Mthlane
    4. Jaro
    5. Wongjongkam
     
    Drew101, Oct 22, 2012
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  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I agree...

    ...however with the recent RING lineal title rule changes, I have made the decision to no longer list divisions like Drew did above (not that it is wrong or anything).

    For instance, Garcia doesn't get an automatic ranking over Matthysse because the RING claimed he was lineal champ, when Khan and Garcia were not the #1 and #2 fighters in the division when they fought.

    I will always recognize the RING title, and specifically legit lineal ones such as Igarashi had from Wonjongkam, but it no longer gets a "C-" and top billing. The lineal champion very well could be worse than multiple contenders in the division, in this case I believe clearly below Viloria and Marquez.
     
    Nonito Smoak, Oct 22, 2012
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  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    1. Viloria
    2. Mthalane
    3. Igarashi (L)
    4. H. Marquez
    5. Jaro
     
    Nonito Smoak, Nov 19, 2012
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  10. ahcef

    ahcef Member Full Member

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    True. They are hesitant to grab from each other. They prefer to have as many title holders as possible. Bad business move in Viloria's case.
     
    ahcef, Nov 19, 2012
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  11. megavolt

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    Based on this weekend's performance do you think Marquez would be beaten by Mthalane and Igarashi?

    good call on the W btw
     
    megavolt, Nov 19, 2012
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  12. puga_ni_nana

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    imo, viloria should target igarashi first and get the lineal title before fighting roman gonzalez.
     
    puga_ni_nana, Nov 19, 2012
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  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Not just based on the Viloria fight, but also since Concepcion II, his fights with Mepranum and Lumacad also led me to my safe pick of Viloria defeating him, and I think Mthalane would do the same, likely also by stoppage. Igarashi I have not seen enough of and at the moment, would have to pick Hernan on work rate.
     
    Nonito Smoak, Jan 7, 2013
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  14. PIPO23

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    Viloria has fought the best since his light fly days which is more than what you can say for the rest.

    Viloria then a fair gap to moruti for 2nd place.
     
    PIPO23, Jan 8, 2013
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  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Viloria has just lost to Estrada in China on Shiming's debut card. I scored it to Estrada 116-112. Great fight. I had it even thru 8 but then Estrada swept the final four rounds. This shakes up the Flyweight division.

    Igarashi defends his lineal title against Akira Yaegashi in the coming day as well. What do you think about that one?

    How would you rank it now?

    Here's my top 5:
    1. Moruti Mthalane, 29-2, IBF
    2. Juan Estrada, 23-2, WBA and WBO
    3. Toshiyuki Igarashi, 17-1-1, Lineal and WBC
    4. Brian Viloria, 32-4
    5. Edgar Sosa, 48-7

    Very tough between number 2 and 3. Estrada has seldom fought at flyweight, only Viloria as his notable victory, but it was a tremendous one. I think Mthalane is now the top fighter in the division. Sosa has a great resume to be honest. Great how he has managed to stay ranked and relevant for so long. Hernan Marquez is the next honorable mention.
     
    Nonito Smoak, Apr 7, 2013
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