YOUR position on the Roy Jones Chin

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Crucial. And he was so very fast he was able to turn, at least slightly, almost every time.

    This is to be admired of course, but it does impact the argument in terms of pure chin.
     
  2. Wilhelm

    Wilhelm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How hard a punch guys can take depends a lot on what kind of shape they're in. When Jones came way down in weight and wasn't in great shape he got caught and hurt easily. This "he was always one punch away from being KOd" is bull****.
     
  3. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I believe Jones' chin was not suspect in his prime. I believe coming down from heavyweight ruined the damage absorbtion of his legs.
     
  4. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    I think that in his prime Roys chin was average. Nothing great but he did take some decent shots in his prime and he took a few solid punchs nothing spectacular but solid shots from Ruiz who is a heavyweight.

    The shot that he got hit with from Tarver would have KO'd alot of people and Johnson hit him alot before he was KO'd.

    Average chin at his best, but with the reflex's to make up for it. :good
     
  5. ChampionsForever

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  6. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I question whether you could have as much success as Roy having a bad chin. He certainly did get hit in his prime, but I believe he just got older and slower, then got tagged dead hard by Tarver with a punch he didn't see coming. Then he wasn't mentally or physically ready again when he took on Johnson. Now he is seemingly very worried about being hit at all.
     
  7. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Your post is inherently contradictory.

    So based on 1, you feel Tarver proved Roy has a weak chin, then in 2 you go on to say the punch would knock out basically anyone.

    So I ask: How does a punch that would knock out basically anyone prove that the person it DOES knock out, has a weak chin?

    Sigh....
     
  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Then how come Jones never went down until his rematch with Tarver?

    Maybe, maybe not.

    I think there's some truth to both.

    The fact remains, RJJ did avoid the biggest punchers in every weight class he ever fought in. Coincidence?

    That's a matter for debate.
     
  9. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    RJJ had a solid chin prior to Tarver. Tarver just weakened it. And him fighting Johnson 5 months later and getting KOed again weakened iteven more. RJJ has been hit clean plenty of times prior to Tarver. He just brushed them off. The Valle knockdown was nothing but a flash. It's not as if RJJ was going through his whole career never getting hit. Tarver weakened his chin. He didn't expose it. Heck, watch the Hopkins fight. Hopkins get in some good shots. Even Ruiz got in some shots. He was actually hit flush with a right and had Jones stunned for a split second but that's it.
     
  10. Krisv1

    Krisv1 Member Full Member

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    People are not lookin at the whole facts!

    They guy lost 30 lbs of muscle in 6 weeks,the collateral debilitation of this strain not to mention at 35, was too much. Has anyfighter taken such a risk
     
  11. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    totally agree :good
     
  12. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yep, Hopkins got in some very nice shots, actually. Round 8, I believe, he lands a succession of right hands.
     
  13. David B

    David B Nazi Russia lies. This is the only truth. Full Member

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    In the post-fight interview of Jones -Tarver 2 he admitted being knocked out in the amateurs.That's why he knew he was chinny and avoided McClellan,Benn, etc....
     
  14. Tettsuo

    Tettsuo Active Member Full Member

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    This would have greater validity if got KOed right after the Ruiz fight, but he didn't. He won the first fight and got KOed later in the second fight.

    Roy's chin is average.
     
  15. scott is cool

    scott is cool Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It isn't the most durable, and that wasn't proven until his reflexes decreased in speed. His lighting reflexes always came in handy, I guess. :yep