Zhang vs 94 George Foreman

Foreman's loss to a great Heavyweight Holyfield in his prime ----> Zhang's loss to the unproven Hrgovic who looked unimpressive in his last fight.

Foreman's win over Lineal champion Moorer ----> Zhang's win over 15-0 Joyce.

 

It’s not. Joyce (of the first fight) would pretty obviously steamroll Moorer and Zhang almost beat Hrgovic in more ways than one, while Foreman was the clear loser against Holyfield.

 

It doesn't matter who you believe would win that's irrelevant.

Moorer was the Lineal champion and a much better win than Joyce.

And going the distance in a good fight vs a prime Holyfield who is a great, is alot better than having a close fight vs the unproven Hrgovic who looked terrible in his last fight.

 

This is the sort of nonsense that Foreman fans spout. Moorer was maybe a little better than peak Michael Hunter h2h. That matters and I’m not creating an all time rankings list.

 

Not a Foreman fan try again I can just look at subjects objectively unlike you.

And a Foreman hater is the kind of nonsense you spout that's why no one takes your opinions seriously.

I also like how you deflect bringing up Michael Hunter which has nothing to do with my comment above.

Just answer a simple question for once in your life without deflecting.

Is Holyfield a great fighter ? Was Moorer not the Lineal champion ?

Holyfield ----> Hrgovic
Moorer ----> Joyce

Thanks for playing come again.

 

I’ll remind you that this is a h2h thread. My statement stands bc Zhang looked better against fighters were pretty damn good h2h. You’re talking about lineage because you’re a stat boy.

 

Well Hrgovic isn't rated highly H2H is he ? Most people have been unimpressed with him especially in his last fight in which he stunk the joint out. How many top Heavyweights do the fans think Hrgovic beats ?

Joyce got the flavour of the month hype for beating a shopworn Joseph Parker and his bubble got burst. How highly is he rated H2H now ? I would think his stock has plummeted.

So again your argument doesn't work regarding the stats or H2H.

 

Hrgovic is pretty high up h2h. I’d put him above Golota and Frank Bruno, maybe even Pulev.

Joyce beat the absolute crap out Parker and Parker wasn’t that far gone. He broke Dubois’ face too. Zhang is on the short list of guys who were not only good enough to beat Joyce, but also make him look really bad.

Zhang and Joyce tower over Foreman.

 

I don't rank Hrgovic that highly personally until he proves otherwise, I need to see him against other top 10 Heavyweights.

People on this forum went crazy for Joyce after beating Parker, but I'll quote you my posts i certainly wasn't one of those people. I never thought that much of Parker he was solid but that's it and he has average punch power. Dubois is euro level at best.

I just think all in all Joyce was very overrated on this forum, and I think people are jumping the gun with Zhang aswell.

 

You are actually an idiot.

Moorer was an undefeated 35-0 lineal heavyweight champion who took the title off a legend.

Neither Joyce nor Zhang have ever been in the ring with that calibre of fighter.

Foreman obliterates both on the same night and then takes his family to McDonlalds.

Moorer and Holyfield do the same.

 

It’s not about size you tit. If it was Mike Tyson or David Tua never win a fight at heavyweight.

And if you think Hrgovic is a better fighter than Frank Bruno then all I can say is that you know precisely nothing about boxing.

Joseph Parker is a good B grader. Dubios is the same. You are carrying on as though Joe Joyce is Joe Louis. He ain’t. He’s a treacle slow one trick pony with a suspect chin and no ring IQ. And Zhang was just smart enough to take advantage.

 

Moorer lost Tua in seconds, my boy. Size matters.

You know who wasn't Joe Louis? 94 Foreman.

 

While you may be new to the sport and sound as if you've never had a pair of gloves on your hands, I'll remind you that Michael Moorer has a single win over a ranked heavyweight and it happened to be a blown up cruiser who was suffering from multiple organ failure. Moorer/Foreman was the pinnacle of heavyweight mediocrity.

 

Most bang on post of the day.

 

Sure moron.

Mike Tyson’s victims were almost all significantly bigger than him.

Explain that.