Zhang vs Joyce 2 Weigh-In

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  1. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    KO before 5 id say.
     
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    Can any of you that are accusing Joyce of j
    Fight is covered by VADA and both fighters will have been tested regularly.
     
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    Dude stop it at 53:22 and say again he gain no fat.
    Of course he gain muscle mass too for sure but fat also.
    He actually looks like dude who train with Dianabol for last 3 months.
     
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  5. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Third heaviest now. Early this year it was surpassed.

    Lucas Brown (277lbs) v Jarrell Miller (333lbs) for a combined 610lbs!
     
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    slash Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Zhang can't wait to get back in that ring again. Probably not soon enough.
     
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    Jesus Christ. Joe Joyce's eye still looks messed up.
     
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    too much weight gain from Joyce. if the plan is to take Zhang into the later rounds....this may hurt stamina...even with the juice...that is just too damn much weight gain too quickly. Thinking Zhang by the 7th round ko/tko.
     
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    Different eye. He has scarring around his left eye from a motor accident years back or something like that.
     
  10. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Zhang looks physically and mentally fit to go. Gotta lean towards him but Joyce a live dog.
     
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  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Which doesn't mean a jack. Athletes protocols are so advance, you had to be id**** or to mess up something badly to be caught. There is so many masking stuffs and ways to pass a test, it's unreal that there is people that still believes in fairies. :D
     
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    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Again for 5 million time it's mainly muscle and water retention. On top of that yeah obviously he gained some fat, which still happen when using "stuffs". It's depends on million factors as well.
    But try to the same story, but natural. The results of your body will be like Zhang(i'm not claiming he is natural to be fair) for example, with gaining 25+ pounds in such a short time.

    On Zhang you can see clear fat gain, of course muscle gain, and of course water as well.

    On Joyce you mainly see muscle gain, of course water, and very little fat.

    And again we are not talking about BBs physique here.
    Boxers obviously are on very high carbs, so don't expect Coleman on 5% body fat or so.
     
  13. Brighton bomber

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    Surprised Zhang came in so heavy as it will just make his weakness, namely his stamina, even more likely to become a factor if he doesn't stop Joyce in the first half of the fight. I think Joyce's chances have improved a little with that surprise, but still favour Zhang. But won't be shocked if Joyce wins this time.

    Yeah Joyce has gained a lot of weight. But it's not all muscle in fact I think a good amount of it is body fat, you can see when he bends over a bit his belly is hanging the waist band of his underwear. I'd say at least half of the weight he has gained is body fat looking at the weigh in.

    Plus he clearly came in unusually light for the first fight, well below his walk around weight and probably lost some of his usual muscle mass because of it and so when he wasn't manipulating his weight downwards he quickly regained some of his lost muscle as the body tries hard to maintain a state of natural homeostasis in terms of body weight, hence why it's so easy to gain weight but so hard to lose it if you are trying to go below your natural bodies weight.

    Clearly some people exposing they've never hit the gym much or never gained much muscle if they think he looks ripped. Yes he still has some definition and yeah for a normal person who gains that much weight they would have no muscle definition at all, but he's a trained athlete who is carrying a lot of muscle mass and all that muscle will show through even at higher body fat percentages. I look leaner now at a higher body fat percentage than I used to because of the muscle I have gained not because I have a lower bodyfat percentage. What I looked like at 12-14% body fat before I ever lifted a weight compared to what I look now at a similar body fat percentage is drastically different. Christ I probably look leaner now at 15% plus than I did and sub 12% when I didn't lift.
     
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    The juggernaut is still too puny to be taking on emperor Zang. Watch the big China man discipline this punk, for trashing his sushi restaurant...
     
  15. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    If Joyce can't move his head he is going to get hammered like last time. Even granite chins have a limit and it is just not possible to take that kind of continuous punishment. The problem is head movement is a fundamental skill so he I'd say his best chance is getting to Zhang first with that extra 30 pounds of muscle.

    I see Joyce getting completely destroyed in a career ending way, Zhang hits hard and can avoid Joyce's punches.

    Good luck to both and hope that there are no lasting injuries or damage.
     
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