Could Wilder even take Browne?

Browne is poor. Wilder would take him out easily.

 

Browne's not in the same league as Ortiz. Wilder would definitely clatter him and early.

 

No, they don't. All those "facts" have big fat asterisks beside them, and when placed in proper context are not that informative or meaningful when comparing Browne with Ortiz.

1. Brown has a higher KO% * of bums. Level of competition matters.
   
2. Brown has been a world champ * ah, yes, the WBA merry-go-round. Let's review: Chagaev became WBA regular champ by defeating Fres Oquendo for a vacant title, with Fres having fought just five times since his 2-loss skid in 2010, against no-marks (zero top fifteen contenders, I believe the closest to it was Rossy and he was only rated by the WBA, nobody else, no rival org nor respected independent rankings body) with a combined record of 135-82-1. Chagaev then defended against Francesco Pianeta, who boasted three wins over non-ranked opposition since his TKO loss to Wladimir Klitschko (in whose reign he sticks out as perhaps the weakest challenger). During that same period Ortiz beat Matías Ariel Vidondo for the interim version of the belt and defended it once against Bryant Jennings. Now, you can argue that Vidondo is as ho-hum an opponent as the old, inactive Oquendo and the fra-jee-lay Italian, but Jennings is a better scalp than all three combined. Are we saying the WBA regular title, captured vacant against Oquendo and defended against Pianeta, was imbued with more inherent value when Browne toppled an old, fat, tired, hepatitis-ravaged Chagaev for it than its counterpart interim? Oquendo & Pianeta > Vidondo & Jennings? Is that really your position?
   
3. Brown has a better singular win * of a fat, slow old shell of a once-good heavyweight, in a contest Browne was losing handily until the fat slow old shell of a once-good heavyweight gassed. Shades of Briggs vs. Liakhovich here, except that Liakhovich wasn't old and fat in that one as Chagaev was in this.
   
4. Brown has more wins over undefeated opposition * Andriy Rudenko and Richard Towers are worth bragging about, to you? Oh dear me, yes, how ever would poor Luis Ortiz have fared if he were thrown in the lion's den with these undefeated beasts, Rudenko & Towers!

 

Lol.

 

I see you still continue to rate Browne extremely high, hilarious.
Did you even watch Whyte vs Browne?

 

Somebody probably sent him a link and he dismissed it as "fake news" or a trick of CGI or something.

 

Edit: I apologise, it's clearly just a troll.

Wtf is going on in this thread? Did some of you miss the boxing match that took place recently between Whyte and the subject of this thread, Browne? I'll tell you what happened. Browne showed no boxing ability, he was fat, got beaten up, cut up, and then brutally KTFO by Whyte.

 

I've had this discussion with him before the Whyte fight and he keeps calling Browne 'world level'. It's bizzarre to say the least.

Have a read

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/whyte-vs-browne.599243/page-3

 

Browne fans/apologists have spun a whopper of an excuse combo for that one! He suddenly "became as old as he in fact is, overnight (but he was a monster like, just last year, we swear!!!)", was "in poor nick (just...forget that he's always fat)", was "rusty", and I don't even remember what other dumb shit.

But they're doing everything save accept that Whyte is the better man.

 

Browne would make it so easy for wilder you would wonder if they were both on the same team. Plodding forward in straight line with no head movement and his shorter arms wilder would have the freedom of 3 or 4 big shots on an easy target every time they engaged. Would be a breeze for wilder.

 

Browne lasts roughly as long as Malik Scott except it wouldn't be a dive.

 

Wrong again

1. Agreed. So Do you think Brown would have struggled to get a stoppage against Scott?

Often fighters get beaten again or soon after losing and who did Ortiz beat that you rate so highly that wasnt coming off a recent loss?
Tell me?

Brown beat a few undefeated opponents before they tasted defeat. What undefeated opponents does Ortiz hold a win over?

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   See here how you are losing the debate and trying to alter the perception as much as possible to gain something lol.

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   Why are you mentioning Briggs and Liakhovich. Thats irrelevant and you trying to change the subject lol.

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   You should go into politics if you are going to try that.

See above and note how Jennings was coming off a loss and Jennings is comparable to Pianetta at the time chagaev beat him. I would say you could argue sensibly for either.

Now lets look further at Chagaev who is a far far greater win than any Ortiz had.
Chagaev who had beaten
- undefeated 46-0 Valuev who is also better than anyone on Ortiz resume
- Skelton when a force who I would argue is greater than anyone on Ortiz resume
- Ruiz who was arguably Americas best HW for around a decade

Yes chagaev and even some of his opponents were far greater than anyone Ortiz had beaten.
Undeniable and Brown beat Chagaev. In fact he did what Povetkin didnt do and beat him inside the distance

Thats greater than anything Ortiz did. Thats not a slur on Ortiz

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Well thats the thing. Ortiz doesnt hold a victory over an undefeated opponent with a winning record, so we dont know how Ortiz would have faired but I think if it was anything like his performance against Scott, think he would have lost to Brown

 

Yes. Whyte boxed well and scored a big KO

It wasnt about rating Brown. I said if Whyte wins he would have earned his world ranking and guess what... I was right

 

Didn't Whyte basically decapitate a fatass Browne?